a 16 core 32t 5.1 ghz factory boost clock for $500 ? I9 9900x becomes obsolete.
a 16 core 32t 5.1 ghz factory boost clock for $500 ? I9 9900x becomes obsolete.if the 5.0 ghz stuff is true this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back, the navi stuff would be a hard play for marketshare.
For me it was the 3700X and RX 3080. RTX 2070 performance at $250 would be awesome. I'm not crazy about their GPU naming though. It's looks an awful lot like what nvidia would use for their next gen (RTX 3080 vs RX 3080) .That AdoredTV video was interesting, I hope it's true.
What I find most appealing from his list:
- R3 3300: 6/12 - 3.2/4.0 - 50W - 100$
- R5 3600X: 8/16 - 4.0/4.8 - 95W - 230$
- R7 3700X: 12/24 - 4.2/5.0 - 105W - 330$
- (Navi 12) RX 3070: 8GB GDDR6 - 120W - 200$, equivalent to Vega 56's performance.
That AdoredTV video was interesting, I hope it's true.
What I find most appealing from his list:
- R3 3300: 6/12 - 3.2/4.0 - 50W - 100$
- R5 3600X: 8/16 - 4.0/4.8 - 95W - 230$
- R7 3700X: 12/24 - 4.2/5.0 - 105W - 330$
- (Navi 12) RX 3070: 8GB GDDR6 - 120W - 200$, equivalent to Vega 56's performance.
a 16 core 32t 5.1 ghz factory boost clock for $500 ? I9 9900x becomes obsolete.
Those clocks are remarkably unrealistic and I'm not convinced by the SKUs/pricing either. Looks like a modified version of that fake from reddit that was probably repackaged and sent to Adored, I don't know why he dedicated a video to this trash...
Those clocks are remarkably unrealistic and I'm not convinced by the SKUs/pricing either. Looks like a modified version of that fake from reddit that was probably repackaged and sent to Adored, I don't know why he dedicated a video to this trash...
And if they do have 16 cores on AM4, don't you think that the TR series will get a core jump also ?I'm also going 12 core. I think 16 core will hit their Threadripper (HEDT) sales too much. It would also be getting to the point about why people need 16 cores on a ryzen cpu. If your work load needs that many cores you should probably be on a HEDT platform anyway.
It's possible they may even stick to 8 core if they can get big IPC and frequency gains.
Do I think it will be an uplift? Yeah, and a very strong one. But people need to temper their expectations. At least then you can be pleasantly surprised if they are exceeded.My reaction as well. AMD is kicking ass, there is no reason to set unrealistic expectations and set people up for disappointment.
Looks like wishful thinking on the high frequency CPUs, but other than that could be possible.
if you watch his chiplet videos, he covers a study where the use of chiplets increases the yield and the ability to bin since fast chips with defects are still salvageable. the yield curves shift towards much higher frequency when you are able to combine more than one chiplet. the ability to use the slowest ones for ps5/xbone2 means they get much higher volumes of the cherry picked dice.Those clocks are remarkably unrealistic and I'm not convinced by the SKUs/pricing either. Looks like a modified version of that fake from reddit that was probably repackaged and sent to Adored, I don't know why he dedicated a video to this trash...
a 16 core 32t 5.1 ghz factory boost clock for $500 ? I9 9900x becomes obsolete.
please note he indicates that the r9 16/32 will require a new socket. so the 12 core is likely the last am4 compatible chip.
I don't think there's any chance of that. Based on the AMD figures about the TSMC process, there will be high clocks, and there will be more cores, but not at the same time.
I don't think there's any chance of that. Based on the AMD figures about the TSMC process, there will be high clocks, and there will be more cores, but not at the same time. They still need to fit roughly the same TDP, so "just" 50% improvement in power means that the clocks at 16 cores active will be similar as Zen1 clocks at 8 cores active. The higher clock speeds will only be there for you when you are using less cores.
I think there is no chance AMD will be introducing a client socket different from AM4 before DDR5.
whoops, meant to say chipset not socketThe rumour is that the 16 core SKUs break chipset backwards compatibility, not socket.
I think the max core count for mainstream desktop is going to be 12 with a chiplet design. The 12 core parts will include 2 chiplets with 6 cores enabled in each (the 16 core parts to follow if Intel gets really competitive or at the latest as part of the Ryzen 4000 series (with Zen 3 cores and 7nm+). Only the 12 core parts will feature 2 chiplets, everything from 4-8 cores would be a IO die plus one chiplet. The max boost/OC in the 4,6-4,8GHz range.
For APU's I predict one chiplet+ IO die+ a GPU die (either 14 or 7nm) or one CPU chiplet+ a 14nm IO die which has a GPU integrated.
He said to take with a pinch of salt. There are still a few very good ideas there and if you add PS5/XB2 to that speculation then it looks very good from a manufacturing point of perspective. Next gen consoles are high volume parts and if they both would use full 8C chiplets (with lower clocks) there would be many 6C chiplets (with up to 2 faulty cores) left to sell as lower end Ryzen 3000 6C or and higher end 12C.
The new AdoredTV leak is too similar to the reddit leak for me to take it seriously, in my opinion.
Zen1 is already a wider core than Skylake (check Agner Fog;s optimization guide for his comments on this). Zen2 expands on that and I suspect Zen4 will be even wider core than Zen2/3.16c mainstream also serves to kill future sales revenue. There comes a point where you've got more than you need for the next 5-10 years. Going full hog might prove to be disastrous longer term, not necessarily for just AMD but for the entire industry.
AMD needs to start going towards wider cores IMO.