You know what, I'd be interested to hear what you lot have to think as to why
such a backport would have been conceived. I can only think of one reason why it would have been, and I really hope it's not the case.
You know what, I'd be interested to hear what you lot have to think as to why such a backport would have been conceived. I can only think of one reason why it would have been, and I really hope it's not the case.
Why? Because 10nm is broken and staying on 14nm skylakes till 2022 or even 2023 was clearly not a sustainable route. An this still assumes 7nm doesn't fail as well. In fall 2018 intel specifically highlighted the fact that willow cove is uarch is process decoupled (in contrast to sunny cove). Only reason to mention that is because a backport was already planned.
Why are we getting comet lake on laptops? because they can't make >4 core dies on 10nm for consumer products because yields must be terrible.
No, it's because backports are costly as all hell and they felt no need to do so.I'd argue that the reason Palm/Sunny Cove didn't get backported was because manufacturing convinced management that 10 nm was going to be fixable.
No, it's because backports are costly as all hell and they felt no need to do so.
As they've done since Sandy Bridge.They need new products to sell from now until 7 nm ships. Best case for 7 nm is mid-late 2022 at the earliest.
Seems like the very best 1065G7 does around 1300-1350 in GB5 windows:
TGL-U. 2.3GHz base, 4.2GHz boost it seems. The score is with DDR4.
Another result that is about 10% ahead of the 1065G7 in both clock speed and single core results.
Also Gen12 graphics too:
Intel Corporation Tiger Lake Client Platform - Geekbench
Benchmark results for an Intel Corporation Tiger Lake Client Platform with an Intel 0000 processor.browser.geekbench.com
Yep. And this boosts about 300mhz higher, which is why I said approximately 10% clock bump and 10% perf bump.Seems like the very best 1065G7 does around 1300-1350 in GB5 windows:
Which one of us will eat the cat food then?RKL-S is fully 14nm so of course Gen12 is 14nm and it's most likely monolithic, Intel confirmed btw Xe is not bound to a specific process.
looks to me like TGL has low IPC increase
TGL-U. 2.3GHz base, 4.2GHz boost it seems. The score is with DDR4.
Another result that is about 10% ahead of the 1065G7 in both clock speed and single core results.
Also Gen12 graphics too:
Intel Corporation Tiger Lake Client Platform - Geekbench
Benchmark results for an Intel Corporation Tiger Lake Client Platform with an Intel 0000 processor.browser.geekbench.com
That can only work if has pcie4 and is willow-cove based.
I think they will have a 7nm Golden Cove limited launch in 2 years from now, just about enough for laptop market.
Now that I think about it, it's probably better to compare vs another ES. If you look at GB scores, ES are almost never even close to the best even if they have retail clocks.GB5 windows
TGL-U@4.2GHz boost: 1400 ( best)
ICL-U@3.9GHz boost: 1372( best)
I'd say about then for RKL-S. Either Q1 or Q2.What isn't clear is when exactly Rocket Lake-S shows up: is it Q1 or Q2 2021? Alder Lake-S looks like Q3 2021, if it ever appears.
Now that I think about it, it's probably better to compare vs another ES. If you look at GB scores, ES are almost never even close to the best even if they have retail clocks.
That's usually due to poor boost clocks, or god awful memory configurations. That latter usually happens when the CPU ends up in the hands of OEMs.Now that I think about it, it's probably better to compare vs another ES. If you look at GB scores, ES are almost never even close to the best even if they have retail clocks.
Another launch in 2021 would leave nothing for 2022, as I doubt we'll see 7nm desktop until late 2023
Everything else 7nm is 2023.
...I'm sorry, I'm an idiot. I've mixed up my years, you're correct.Intel better hope that isn't true. Aurora is supposed to be ready in Q4 2021 with other 7nm coming in 2022 . . . that's their lifeline.
No, but we have Ice Lake U RVP to compare to Tiger Lake U RVPNot have icl-u ES on gb5