Believe me, if I had one, I would link immediately.Anyone have a link to purchase the Cooler Server 4U-M99?
CongratsGenoa number 5 done
Yep, The Micron's 2R 32GB modules and their Smicro rebranded versions(So a mix of original Micron's and Smicro's rebranded version of the same module).Did you use the approve supermicro memory ?
So original compound is not highly degrading within first 6-8 months.They have been running 24/7 @ 100%. no errors.
I used the approved torque, same as with threadrippers.Markfw
Yep, The Micron's 2R 32GB modules and their Smicro rebranded versions(So a mix of original Micron's and Smicro's rebranded version of the same module).
So original compound is not highly degrading within first 6-8 months.
Maybe my problems have to do with running for few months with SP5 screws not fully tighten(Without too much force, ofc) and I have unbalanced thermal contact in some area...
I have only standard screwdrivers, unfortunately, for manual screwing w/o torque control, like used for consumer CPU coolers installation(And even then first installing I didn't have full T20 screwdriver and took a bit for it from a friend - It was short, so it was extremely hard for me to screw the screws just near the radiator). Still AMD's recommendation is 12.5-15.0 kgf/cm, which is not a small precise range. My main task was to not apply too much force, to not not break it physically. And its scary then dealing with CPU this complex,large and pricey...I used the approved torque, same as with threadrippers.
Apparently we all have the 100C+ tctl/tdie. That's good info though - happening with 1.6 and windows only. You haven't done anything wrong to your cpu or bad mount.Long time I didn't came here.
So I've reached 1 month+1 weak of stable run and then got another uncorrectable ECC error. Then I screwed a heatsink a little more(Memtests passed again). Afterwards I had week only of stable runtime.
I've discovered new BIOS 1.6 for my H13SSL-NT, and it's a little strange for me.
Why everything is similar to previous BIOS's the Tctl shown in HWInfo64 and temp shown in Memtest86(The same value) is 98-117 degrees of celcius instead of 45-60 with previous BIOS's.
tctl in Linux(sensors command) is somehow fine for both BIOSs(1.5 and 1.6).
Then it reaches the bad mark of 101(Which is probably 50-55) and up HTC and Prochot are triggered.
All CCDs and IOD die have the same temps as before(Normal ones), IPMI is fine as well. Working with SM support right now on this issue and they are not able to reproduce it for now.
I suspect possibly bad heatsink mount overall.
@Markfw , I must ask, then you install the M97's you leave the pre-applied thermal compound on it or replace it with your own(Noctua/Arctic)?
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Markfw
So, Coolserver released extra modifications of their SP5 cooler, and now have larger M99, Just like the famous M99 heavy duty sniper barret
Even the middle M98 is nowhere to be found... Still didn't expect from therm to make more coolers for SP5(Judging from other sockets product lines).
Congrats
I still struggle with my 1-st
Silverstone's AIO is available on eBay, but I highly doubt their quality(Especially the possible Alumi/Copper mixing), and reviews about their other AIO systems with pumps dying withing half year for some ppl(But it can be rare cases - I dunno, ppl w/o problems don't tend to write about experience).
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Thanks, while many of links point to M97(You can know it by '5 pipes' in description), there are indeed 2 sellers with M98 cooler.
Interesting.... So it's not only me .Apparently we all have the 100C+ tctl/tdie.
Yep, Linux shows it normally. However, it's not only Windows - Memtest86(Bootable) has it's temps detection messed as well as I've said already...That's good info though - happening with 1.6 and windows only.
I hope so, or we both have bad mountsYou haven't done anything wrong to your cpu or bad mount.
Not sure exactly what behaviour... I can say that at 100% load I am at 76c temp. Sometimes I have seen it as high as 87, once at 93.If we only could know if @Markfw 's systems exhibit similar behaviour...
With BIOS 1.6, booting into Memtest86 ISO/USB, even without starting test(Just go into System Information), so the system is actually idle - It will show 95-100 degree Celcius temp. Will show 115-117 after load.Not sure exactly what behavior...
Given the regressions which you are seeing, I certainly won't update my BIOS anytime soon.
1.1a - It was my first BIOS. Stable one.1.1a and no, never seen temps over 93 for any reason.
Here's a screenshot to answer some of your questions. I remounted the cpu in the socket and heatsink 4 times 4 different ways. Nothing changed. I've confirmed nothing is throttling and this is probably just a reporting error.Trotador22
Thanks, while many of links point to M97(You can know it by '5 pipes' in description), there are indeed 2 sellers with M98 cooler.
No signs of M99 through, which has Fans rotated 90 degree(I.e going across the long side of the socket) allowing for horizontal airflow direct front intake to rear exhaust, which is nice(With M97 its bottom to top).
Iketh
Interesting.... So it's not only me .
Do you have HTC and Prochot triggered as well then it crosses the 101 degree border? I feel that system is indeed slower and it trips Prochot a lot more and for a long periods of time, especially during/after gaming than with older BIOS's.
From other side older BIOS's had Prochot triggering too sometimes without any temp being high, but HTC was not tripped and Prochot Ext was, so it was due to some other unknown component. With 1.6 the main Prochot+HTC is triggered.
Memtest86 speed does not seem to be affected(Judging by the time spend on pass 1 and all 4 passes w/o Hammer).
Yep, Linux shows it normally. However, it's not only Windows - Memtest86(Bootable) has it's temps detection messed as well as I've said already...
I hope so, or we both have bad mounts
Smicro can't reproduce it, so possibly there are configurations of H13SSL-NT+Epyc Genoa+BIOS 1.6 with normal Tctl detection, or they didn't test with Memtest86 yet?
Just for sake of finding similarities in our configs:
1) Do you have H13SSL-N or H13SSL-NT or another Smicro Board?
2) Do you have regular or frequency optimized(Model with F in the end, and higher base freq) Epyc Genoa CPU?
3) Workstation/Desktop chassis or rack(If rack then Smicro's or custom)?
4) Which CPU cooler(Dynatron/Smicro OEM/CoolServer)?
5) CPU cooler screwing: Did you used torque limited screwdriver or manual? Did you screwed 1-6 in one pass(As, seems like the recommended way)? I've used 'Car wheels strategy' - multiple times 1-6, half-full rotation each time to reach even pressure - But maybe 1-2 being first+instnt screw reccomendation is to screw IOD die harder than CCD's... I'm not sure at this point. I've ordered 1.2-3.0Nm Variable Torque Wera screwdriver from Amazon just to have it for future, while I still quite trust my manual screwing sensitivity, and SP5 heatsing mounting spring system to provide a contra against possible excessive input torque(Like Corsair's AIO and many others do), we can never know...
If we only could know if @Markfw 's systems exhibit similar behaviour...
Ok, I just didn't managed to find anything by Googling, unless it's on closed forums.It's not just you and I. Many are reporting the error online.
It's the mentioned previously XE360-SP5? I'm little skeptical about its quality right now. Give us, pls, some feedback after 1y of runtime of this oneSilverstone water cooling.
Yep, Similar to my case with this BIOS, but yours have slightly higher tops(121 vs 118), probably due to slightly higher minimal temps(42 vs 34) and also HTC and Prochot shown on.Here's a screenshot to answer some of your questions. I remounted the cpu in the socket and heatsink 4 times 4 different ways.
If you have a HWiNFO debug file, attach it to this thread for the author. It could be HWiNFO problem.Iketh
Ok, I just didn't managed to find anything by Googling, unless it's on closed forums.
It's the mentioned previously XE360-SP5? I'm little skeptical about its quality right now. Give us, pls, some feedback after 1y of runtime of this one
Yep, Similar to my case with this BIOS, but yours have slightly higher tops(121 vs 118), probably due to slightly higher minimal temps(42 vs 34) and also HTC and Prochot shown on.
The only bad thing in my case is high peak 'CPU Die/Avg' value, which (Unlike the Tcl) I suspect is real (51.2-72.6 on yours and 65.9-97 on my) which can indicate of real overheating in my case...
CCDs peak near 73 for both of us.
I tried to generate one a week ago, however in my case it doesn't export anything for the 'Sensors' category, so I can only export main computer information, and without Sensors its useless for our issue.If you have a HWiNFO debug file
And a testing 10.6 Build 3004 build. I'm, however not in mtc window now, so can't shutdown yet. It will probably take until components arrival or another crash(Tfu-tfu-tfu), or centralized Windows Update deployment.We made some changes to apply an offset when certain bits get set after the BIOS update.
I will never do business with Aliex. They screwed be out of $100 on my first cooler. I had to go to VISA and spend 3 months to get my money back. They said that even though it was in the US when it stopped be moved, because I did not include the 9 digit zip, it was undeliverable. Thats BS, Fedex, USPS UPS and more can deliver with a 5 digit zip.Iketh
Meantime I've ordered M98 Air and Silverstone's AIO.
Passmark got back to me with the following reply:
And a testing 10.6 Build 3004 build. I'm, however not in mtc window now, so can't shutdown yet. It will probably take until components arrival or another crash(Tfu-tfu-tfu), or centralized Windows Update deployment.
You can refer to this, however, hoping it can guide HWInfo64 developer in the correct direction...
Markfw
I've asked the seller(AliEx), I've ordered a M98 from about M99 and they say, they don't have a stock of it yet.
So, I guess it will be available for purchase within 1-2 months...
I know. I remember the story quite well, with the Alibaba seller at the time with the first M97.I will never do business with Aliex. They screwed be out of $100 on my first cooler.
One question: are only Micron, Samsung and Hynix DIMMs compatible with the SuperMicro motherboards? I had a EPYC 7551 with SuperMicro mobo, and it never post. I used Corsair DIMMs. Could that be the reason?Markfw
I've got the Smicro compatible Micron 32GB 2R RDIMM modules. The first 6 are retail by Micron, the new 3 from Newegg are same model rebranded by SuperMicro(Still waiting for them).
Micron part#: MTC20F2085S1RC48BA1R
I've selected it out of 3 compatible options(By Micron, Samsung and Hynix). Hynix was 1R and uses older manufacturing process, Micron had much more availability via eBay back then, so it was an easy choice
It wasn't available via Newegg then I've ordered but its there now.
In my case it's was just really a bad module, not a compat issue. Happens.