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bbhaag

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2011
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If you are young you don't need to keep checking on something like that. It's investing, not trading.
That's what my advisor and brother said as well. Our accounts seem to be on track so I'm just keep on doing what I'm doing until we get closer to retirement. Once that happens I'll definitely keep a closer eye on things.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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I need those etf ideas

I’ve got voog which I got at probably its lowest point in the last three years but it’s been fluctuating a lot lately.

I also did LIT which has been ass. I figured the increase in EV’s would help but nope.
 

Exterous

Super Moderator
Jun 20, 2006
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Terrible! The US domestic stock index keeps out performing all the other markets collectively so I have to keep rebalancing from my overweight US stock allocations into countries that aren't performing as well as the US. Thanks Biden
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Hmm not bad. Over the last 20 months I’ve gotten 18.5% return. Well probably 17% after today.
 

desy

Diamond Member
Jan 13, 2000
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I don't really look at what my savings are doing but as I retire in a couple of years I probably should move them to less risky endeavors.
However I have a fully funded retirement from my employer so its just side cash.
 

skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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I don't really look at what my savings are doing but as I retire in a couple of years I probably should move them to less risky endeavors.
However I have a fully funded retirement from my employer so its just side cash.
is it a pension?
 
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nOOky

Platinum Member
Aug 17, 2004
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Listen to old people. If I would have listened to my father and not pissed away my money on car stereos, booze, women, motorcycles, computers, and general tomfoolery I could retire at 55. Instead I'm a guy in his mid 50's struggling to catch up by putting half my current income in retirement. Half my income in my 20's would have gotten me a lot farther, but then I guess my 20's would have been a lot different.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Listen to old people. If I would have listened to my father and not pissed away my money on car stereos, booze, women, motorcycles, computers, and general tomfoolery I could retire at 55. Instead I'm a guy in his mid 50's struggling to catch up by putting half my current income in retirement. Half my income in my 20's would have gotten me a lot farther, but then I guess my 20's would have been a lot different.
This is true.

$1000 a year invested starting at 25 at 6% return is about $165K at 65. $41,000 being principal

$10,000 a year invested starting at 55 at 6% return is about $150K. $110,000 being principle
 
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MtnMan

Diamond Member
Jul 27, 2004
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I'm old enough that I have to withdraw funds, so I'm taking the MRD*, and I'm still up 16% over the last 12 months.

* MRD =mandatory required distribution
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Could always be better but not too shabby. Being semi-retired where work to play ratio is now ~ 20/80, the wifey and myself have both of those worlds shaped into pretty good places to live in. Although nothing is ever guaranteed in life, being out of the rat race and somewhat financially secure at this moment in time sure is nice for a change.
 

Sunburn74

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56. My retirement is my house and social security . I'll reverse mortgage my house when I cant work anymore .
Congestive heart failure . 50/50 chance of living 5 years .
Try to get a heart transplant in your state to extend your life.
 
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Dec 10, 2005
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Listen to old people. If I would have listened to my father and not pissed away my money on car stereos, booze, women, motorcycles, computers, and general tomfoolery I could retire at 55. Instead I'm a guy in his mid 50's struggling to catch up by putting half my current income in retirement. Half my income in my 20's would have gotten me a lot farther, but then I guess my 20's would have been a lot different.
The key is to balance current wants and future needs. What's the point of saving up tons of money at the expense of being miserable today because you don't spend anything on yourself? Also, disability can lurk in the future, killing tons of ideas for retirement trips and fun, so good to sprinkle those things in when you're able-bodied.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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BTW I like this thread as quite a few of you have shared tips on how and what to do.

Here's something not to do:


So be careful with these scams!
 

nOOky

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I'm over 20% for 2023 with both my 401k and Roth. I'm also thinking about building up my HSA more and sacrificing the 401k contributions a bit. My HSA is sitting at just over 10k, and I can invest it in mutual funds, but have not yet. I just put my emergency fund in a 7 month CD because I was sick of seeing that sit there and earn basically nothing. I am also sick of seeing my HSA money doing nothing. I should be using that as more of a retirement vehicle also since I don't plan to have to use more than enough to cover a max out of pocket or an emergency.
 
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Nov 29, 2006
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I'm over 20% for 2023 with both my 401k and Roth. I'm also thinking about building up my HSA more and sacrificing the 401k contributions a bit. My HSA is sitting at just over 10k, and I can invest it in mutual funds, but have not yet. I just put my emergency fund in a 7 month CD because I was sick of seeing that sit there and earn basically nothing. I am also sick of seeing my HSA money doing nothing. I should be using that as more of a retirement vehicle also since I don't plan to have to use more than enough to cover a max out of pocket or an emergency.
I have my HSA set to keep in savings the max out of pocket in a year, then anything over that automatically goes into my specified fund. I would think most HSAs have that feature.
 

skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Some old people will tell you to save when you're young and plan for retirement and other old people will tell you go live your life. I went with the second one and I don't regret it. I pissed away all sorts of retirement money buying avgas when it was less than two bucks a gallon.
 
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I'm over 20% for 2023 with both my 401k and Roth. I'm also thinking about building up my HSA more and sacrificing the 401k contributions a bit. My HSA is sitting at just over 10k, and I can invest it in mutual funds, but have not yet. I just put my emergency fund in a 7 month CD because I was sick of seeing that sit there and earn basically nothing. I am also sick of seeing my HSA money doing nothing. I should be using that as more of a retirement vehicle also since I don't plan to have to use more than enough to cover a max out of pocket or an emergency.
Plenty of HYSAs out there these days paying >4%. No reason not to have one.

Same for the HSA - keep a buffer you feel comfortable with in cash or cash equivalent (like a Fed Money Market fund) and invest the rest. Depending on the brokerage, you could even have dividends just dump into the cash fund to replenish it if you do any withdrawals for health expenses. This is definitely something that Fidelity lets you set up.

I personally have a bit of money in an HSA, nearly all invested. Somewhat fortunately, I can no longer contribute to it because my current employer has really nice, heavily subsidized health plans to choose from.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Some old people will tell you to save when you're young and plan for retirement and other old people will tell you go live your life. I went with the second one and I don't regret it. I pissed away all sorts of retirement money buying avgas when it was less than two bucks a gallon.
As others have said there is a balance to be achieved and I think the average person would be very happy if they made even very modest retirement contributions in their 20’s.

I broadly agree with you though. Life is for living and when you’re young you can do a lot more.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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As others have said there is a balance to be achieved and I think the average person would be very happy if they made even very modest retirement contributions in their 20’s.

I broadly agree with you though. Life is for living and when you’re young you can do a lot more.
Speaking of living we’ve had great luck with traveling using Escape Houston. The site aggregates all the local cheap flights. They now have other cities as well.


We’ve found $500-$800 round trip flights to Germany, UK, Spain, and Australia. The one trick is you need some flexibility as you can’t pick specific locations and times to travel as it depends on what specials are being offered.

As an example we managed to travel to Germany for a week for $550 a person and stay in an Airbnb for less than $200/ day sleeping 5. Costs way more to fly the family to Disney.
 

repoman0

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My retirement accounts are close to 100% in US stock market index funds, so ~25% over the past year or whatever it is. Regular brokerage accounts closer to 70% thanks to my wife’s company stock. We’re slowly shifting it to VTI and VGT.

I’m certainly thankful that I maxed all this stuff out throughout my 20s, probably bought back a couple decades or more vs typical age 65 retirement. Assuming no catastrophes over the next decade of course 🙄 I’m not old (sort of … 34) but I’d suggest to any 18-22 year old new grad that they save what they can. It’s a balance
 
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dullard

Elite Member
May 21, 2001
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The key is to balance current wants and future needs. What's the point of saving up tons of money at the expense of being miserable today because you don't spend anything on yourself? Also, disability can lurk in the future, killing tons of ideas for retirement trips and fun, so good to sprinkle those things in when you're able-bodied.
Exactly.

I keep harping on this over and over and over, but live life now AND in the future. Blowing all your money in your 20s so you struggle the rest of your life is bad. Saving all your money so that you are a miserable wealthy miser that dies with an unspent fortune is bad. There is an optimum where you can live life while young and while old. Aim for roughly 15% saved each year when you are working (through various combinations of retirement, 401k matches, SS, pensions, whatever you have). Feel free to save more or less than 15%, but that is reachable savings goal for just about all but the most impoverished (especially since SS and the 401k match cover much of that 15%).
 

dullard

Elite Member
May 21, 2001
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I'm over 20% for 2023 with both my 401k and Roth. I'm also thinking about building up my HSA more and sacrificing the 401k contributions a bit. My HSA is sitting at just over 10k, and I can invest it in mutual funds, but have not yet. I just put my emergency fund in a 7 month CD because I was sick of seeing that sit there and earn basically nothing. I am also sick of seeing my HSA money doing nothing. I should be using that as more of a retirement vehicle also since I don't plan to have to use more than enough to cover a max out of pocket or an emergency.
HSAs are triple taxed advantaged. (1) No tax on money that goes in. (2) No tax on money as it grows. (3) No tax on money as you withdraw it as long as it is spent on medical purposes that start at ANY point after you first opened any HSA account*. With triple tax advantages, the HSA should be the first place to put any retirement funds beyond your 401k minimum to get a match if you have the option to invest in your HSA.

* Meaning if you opened that HSA in lets say 2019, then any medical bill from 2019 until the day you die counts as medical spending that you can reimburse yourself untaxed at any moment that you need cash.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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HSAs are triple taxed advantaged. (1) No tax on money that goes in. (2) No tax on money as it grows. (3) No tax on money as you withdraw it as long as it is spent on medical purposes that start at ANY point after you first opened any HSA account*. With triple tax advantages, the HSA should be the first place to put any retirement funds beyond your 401k minimum to get a match if you have the option to invest in your HSA.

* Meaning if you opened that HSA in lets say 2019, then any medical bill from 2019 until the day you die counts as medical spending that you can reimburse yourself untaxed at any moment that you need cash.

This ^ guy fucks ...

And to add, after 65 you can withdraw (without penalty) for anything. It doesn't have to be medical related.
 
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