It was from Tom’s.Ooh that looks good. Where are all the tech website journalists? Parked in the Zen5 thread? Write an article about this slide!
The legend.
Well, I am impressed.
Is Qualcomm playing games with the tech media?One interesting thing about the last few weeks is many journalists and sources have gotten different info, I don’t know if that’s because some didn’t take it all with them but it sort of seems like they’re deliberately trying to disperse the PR and give everyone a different scoop almost. Was amazed I found that chart just buried under a Tom’s thing. Someone else found the ST curves to recently.
Ok that's a lot of information.
I don't think so. Revegnus has leaked that 8G4 uses Phoenix-L, and judging by it's name, it seems to be Phoenix with some minor tweaks. The 2800 ST GB6 score corroborates that. So it's technically not the same core as the one used in X Elite.So 8G4 will actually use Pegasus rather than Phoenix?
Very intriguing. We know that the original 'Phoenix' designed by Nuvia was aimed at servers. Surely, the Phoenix utilised in X Elite isn't that same core as that one? Perhaps they made some changes to enable it for use in laptops.Also, is there truth towards Phoenix actually being a 2nd generation core internally?
If this information is true, there are 2 possibilites:"X Elite is the 2nd generation internally and the 1st generation officially released. 8 Gen 4 is the 2nd generation to be officially released and has the same architecture as the next generation X Elite."
People are working on native ARM64 version.Is the GPU of the X Elite supported in Blender?
I assume it uses openGL.
I guess you specifically mean for Windows. Because Blender has been happily running on Apple Silicon for months (if not years) now.People are working on native ARM64 version.
Yes.I guess you specifically mean for Windows. Because Blender has been happily running on Apple Silicon for months (if not years) now.
The rest is behind the paywall. Anybody here have a Semiaccurate subscription? I'd like to know what information Charlie has got.One of the up sides to companies not briefing you is that there are no embargoes to bind you. With that in mind, SemiAccurate can tell you about the Qualcomm release roadmap for their Nuvia/Homua/X Elite SoCs barring one bit, err, under embargo.
We will start this out by saying the company is doing the slow trickle of news thing, each tidbit is a separate event with (hopefully) a new hype cycle. Think the 10c being a different ‘event’ from the 12c and so on. Rather than waiting for each new release, we will bring you all of them, bar that one, at once! Isn’t progress wonderful?
I've long stopped reading Semiaccurate since all of it became pay walled and the forum disappeared.Semiaccurate article from March 25th, that details Qualcomm's future Nuvia/Snapdragon X/Oryon plans. Why did nobody post this earlier?
Yeah, and it's questionable whether it's worth paying for a Semiaccurate subscription, especially considering the quality of their content. It's nowhere near the level of titans like SemiAnalysis or even TechInsights.I've long stopped reading Semiaccurate since all of it became pay walled and the forum disappeared.
It’s not Apple Qualcomm has to worry about but Intel and AMD. Apple doesn’t offer windows either on x86 nor arm64. Not saying they aren’t but Apple is not qualcomms primary competition.So according to the recent Bloomberg article, Apple M4 is coming this year, 2024Q4.
It seems to indicate that Apple is following a 12 month cadence, now onwards.
That means (if as rumoured) when X Elite G2 arrives in 2026Q1, it will have to compete with the already released Apple M5 (2025Q4).
That means X Elite G2 will have to bring double-generational uplifts in performance, or else Qualcomm is at serious risk of falling behind their competitors.
I don't entirely agree with you.It’s not Apple Qualcomm has to worry about but Intel and AMD. Apple doesn’t offer windows either on x86 nor arm64. Not saying they aren’t but Apple is not qualcomms primary competition.
Well, if the rumours of AMD achieving +50% ST with Zen 5 us true, then Qualcomm is in trouble....It’s not Apple Qualcomm has to worry about but Intel and AMD. Apple doesn’t offer windows either on x86 nor arm64. Not saying they aren’t but Apple is not qualcomms primary competition.
Why do you keep increasing this? Kepler_L2 said 40%.Well, if the rumours of AMD achieving +50% ST with Zen 5 us true, then Qualcomm is in trouble....