We need to wait for more compatile BIOS releases. So far there was just a single one.Only 43 days left until the AMD keynote at Computex on June 3 and still not any solid leak. I wonder if we’ll get any credible and precise performance numbers or pricing info before that, or if AMD will manage too keep everything secret until we hear it from Lisa Su directly. Any opinions, based on e.g. past track record?
Both ASUS and MSI have released BIOS for Zen5:We need to wait for more compatile BIOS releases. So far there was just a single one.
Given where he purports to live, I hope your use of military jargon is coincidental...Your guys should take another hint: Someone is MIA...
Yep, I noticed this also. And I thought exactly the same.Your guys should take another hint: Someone is MIA...
Well he is active on Twitter/X. Also most of them have the same source, I think it's a Discord where they all are in and sometimes someone posts some results.Given where he purports to live, I hope your use of military jargon is coincidental...
It's not like he's the only source of Zen5 being OP...
Still yet to see one convincing argument that the core isn't 40 points of IPC. Amd did multiple 20ish cores that are all fundamentally the same size and a core that is massively bigger gets what?Yep, I noticed this also. And I thought exactly the same.
Well he is active on Twitter/X. Also most of them have the same source, I think it's a Discord where they all are in and sometimes someone posts some results.
If I remember correctly, their "ZEN 5 April Launch" stuff was information from November last year, and they still said it was true, after some different rumors emerged in January, before AMD themselves said H2 at end of January.
However it's still not his style to say nothing about it, even if he is dead wrong he will just igbore it and start hyping the next thing from AMD. He did the same with RDNA3 after all.
Well, let's agree the last few pages of this thread haven't been that interesting, when we got invaded by the Intel threaders and their copium, and we ended up talking about zen4 again, for some reason...However it's still not his style to say nothing about it, even if he is dead wrong he will just igbore it and start hyping the next thing from AMD. He did the same with RDNA3 after all.
Not quite.They are going from a skylakish sized core to a gc sized core
if by that you mean "retweeting every picture of Kazusa there is", yeah.Well he is active on Twitter/X.
that was the mobo vendor timeline and it slipped.If I remember correctly, their "ZEN 5 April Launch" stuff was information from November last year
not really, no.Also most of them have the same source
Well thing is, I'm not wrong about RDNA3.However it's still not his style to say nothing about it, even if he is dead wrong he will just igbore it and start hyping the next thing from AMD. He did the same with RDNA3 after all.
FIFY.I don't care about rumors anymore, I just want the *950X3D ASAP to alleviate increasingly demanding games (frame dips and new engines) and my AI hobby needs
A man can hope and dream that AMD will launch the X3D version initially, but I'm not going to keep my hopes up.FIFY.
You'll have to wait for a year.A man can hope and dream that AMD will launch the X3D version initially, but I'm not going to keep my hopes up.
From generation to generation, Zen was larger in terms of the logic used and the number of transistors used for it. Zen 3 compared to Zen 2 is generally a redesign of the control logic and the algorithms contained in it, and an expansion of about 14%. This proves that the logic in Zen 2 was not designed optimally for the amount of resources.Still yet to see one convincing argument that the core isn't 40 points of IPC. Amd did multiple 20ish cores that are all fundamentally the same size and a core that is massively bigger gets what?
People are literally betting on worse then bulldozer execution. Bulldozer cores were significantly narrower then k10 and had a horrible cache implementation and achieved about the same IPC.
They are going from a skylakish sized core to a gc sized core , justify why amds execution will be worse then Intel's.....
From generation to generation, Zen was larger in terms of the logic used and the number of transistors used for it. Zen 3 compared to Zen 2 is generally a redesign of the control logic and the algorithms contained in it, and an expansion of about 14%. This proves that the logic in Zen 2 was not designed optimally for the amount of resources.
The whole point of derived cores is iteratively bigger designsThis proves that the logic in Zen 2 was not designed optimally for the amount of resources.
Zen 1+ consists mainly of fixes, among others, in the microcode. Zen1+ fixed what Zen1 couldn't do in time.Let s say that it was somewhat rushed, but so was Zen since Zen+ had 5% better MT IPC without almost nothing being changed.
The key to microarchitecture is the control logic and the algorithms it contains. This part is a closely guarded secret.The whole point of derived cores is iteratively bigger designs
Wha.The key to microarchitecture is the control logic and the algorithms it contains.
What.Yes, it is not the number of units or the size of buffers but the logic managing them that is the key to optimal use of resources.
Zen3 literally piled on the port count.The entire control logic has been replaced with a redesigned and expanded one.
What did I just read...? )Yes, it is not the number of units or the size of buffers but the logic managing them that is the key to optimal use of resources.
For this reason, with the same amount of ALU and decoding width, Zen 3 brought an average of +19% higher IPC
That's everything since Kaveri.Fully unified, as in a Mac?
That's aperture. It slides.Or with a part of it reserved for the GPU, as in integrated graphics solutions?
Kaveri long predates Apple efforts.but that would only be a differentiator under the Mac fully unified model.