;) A7N8X-E is probably little more than the latest revision of A7N8X Deluxe v2.0 (designed to compete with Abit's AN7?). It doesn't seem truly better (or worse) than what would appear to be its predecessor. Comparing it to the A7N8X Deluxe v2.0 it seems the same; Dual Channel DDR, nForce2...
9800PRO (0.15) 380/340 256bitDDR 8pipes 21.8GB/s 3.2Gp/s
9800 . . . (0.15) 325/310 256bitDDR 8pipes 19.8GB/s 2.6Gp/s
:D 9800 should o/c to around 380/350 with little problem. You should certainly get 9800PRO perf. I doubt the 9800PRO will o/c much higher than the nonPRO. Anyway nothing's for...
;)Well the GF (which one?) were all pretty demanding, but the 9600PRO is IMHO a little higher (or handles things a little worse) and hence probably more borderline. ATI decided to rely on the mobo's AGP slot to supply the necessary power for the 9600PRO. This would explain why a 9700 would work...
:confused: I'm still in dis-belief that ATI have released 9800 series cards which are seriously inferior to the Rad9500PRO ... as if Rad9600PRO wasn't bad enough! I really thought at least one of the 9800SE were going to use 0.13mu and be to the 9800 series what the 9600 series is to the 9500...
;) Well I found some info on the 9800SE series, not rock solid but here it goes...
9800SE-128bit 325/250 3.6-4.0ns TSOP 6layer 4pipes
9800SE-256bit 380/340 2.8ns BGA 8layer 4pipes
9800Pro-256bit 380/350 2.8ns BGA 8layer 8pipes
9600Pro-128bit 400/300 2.8-3.0ns BGA ?layer 4pipes
:( BMs suggest...
:( The thing that annoys me most is when manu's release their version of the card and quietly give it lower clocks and cheaper RAM and yet still call it by it's full name. Eg EVGA's 4200-64MB should have 250/500 but used 250/440, it wasn't called the 4200 64MB XE, EZ or Lite but simply GF4TI4200...
;) Yeah it's far too much of a gamble ... and like the 9500nonPRO modding it's likely to become harder and harder. So basicly go for a 9700nonPRO (easily hits 9700PRO/9800 speeds) which can be found as cheap as FX5600ultra cards and are WAY faster than those and any 9800SE. Otherwise it's best...
:confused: Is there any hard info on the 9800SE yet? I thought it was still mostly rumours. Anyway from what I've heard to date there are 2 9800SE cards, clock speed isn't really the issue, the likely perf is. So he's my thoughts on them ...
128bitDDR - should give perf equal to a 9500PRO (so...
:cool: Wheete yeah I didn't think the 9600 series used the extra power supply. My point (as I'm sure you know and suspected yourself) was that not having it places all the power demands on the AGP slot, almost certainly the problem. Not that I'd say it's ATI's fault, the card is likely to be...
:( KT266A is certainly long in the tooth now but it should work fine. Are you sure everything is set to default (ie no o/c's)? Did you try a completely fresh OS install (ie not just a re-install)? The order you install the drivers can be important too, as mentioned. As also said you want to...
;) Yep no hope at all. Here's the specs...
9600PRO (0.13) 400/300 128bitDDR 4pipes 9.6GB/s 1.6Gp/s
9600 . . . (0.13) 325/200 128bitDDR 4pipes 6.4GB/s 1.3Gp/s
:cool: The 9600 core should be able to hit 9600PRO speed (or higher) BUT the cooling may not be up to it and rem it is where the...
:D Not that it truly matters as it is give and take but 9600PRO easily beats the original 5600ultra and I don't think the 5600ultra V2 flipchip is in the lead often enough or even by enough to say it's truly faster. The other big problems with going for a 5600ultra is firstly not easily being...
:cool: Yep. Otherwise the Rad9600PRO is a good choice, it replaced the 9500PRO but is slightly slower than it. 9700nonPRO is clearly faster and though it has been replaced by the 9800 series is VERY fast esp if you flash the BIOS and o/c! Rad9800nonPRO is another star performer, about the same...
;) I doubt he'll be wanting to keep his GF1 card and just upgrade his PIII 1ghz as for gaming the gfx card is way more important. What's your budget nagibbs? Do you mind trying a little o/c'ing as a lot of chips have a lot of headroom in them by the very nature of their design?
:confused: Pete...
:cool: I haven't tested extensively but my Barton XP2500+ does 2.2ghz 400FSB (XP3200+) on stock voltage using my Abit NF7-S v2.0, my Volcano 11 isn't maxed out although it is too loud for me. I would expect I could get higher esp with up to 1.7v as many people do, anyway Barton & TbredB seem to...
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