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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<ROTFLMAO, oh well, another troll gone>> BenSkywalker your such an @sshole thanks for proving that. You would flame someone who is leaving, for someone who I mistakenly thought was so bright, your such a prick, have a nice life :).
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- Post #91
- Jan 29, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

You win BenSkywalker, this is my very last post. Thanks to those who's company I have enjoyed and who's humor has brightened many of my days.
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- Post #81
- Jan 29, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<...So you buy the individual chips? You create your own PCBs and add the RAM yourself? Then you should have no problem with the NV20 which only costs about $50-$70 per chip...>> Don't be such an @ss. Nvidia does not sell 14 different speed variations to the board manufacturers. You knew what...
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- Post #80
- Jan 29, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<...Deferred rendering has NOTHING to do with eight layer texturing support, ZERO, NADA. WTF made you say something like that?...>> I was talking about Kyro and yes it does, without deferred rendering do you think the rest of the Kyro's graphics engine could do 8-layer multitexturing? I don't...
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- Post #79
- Jan 29, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

100Mhz DDR 256MB = $144-------->200Mhz DDR 256MB = $288 $288/4 = $72 for 64MB of 200Mhz DDR, I still see no reason for Nvidia's $500+ price tag.
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- Post #76
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<...Any deferred rendering method will great improve performance...>> Nvidia's method is NOT a method of deferred rendering. Deferred rendering is very different and way more effective than what Nvidia is using. If Nvidia's method was as effective as deferred rendering they wouldn't need...
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- Post #75
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<...The NV20 chip alone will cost more than this, it is larger and more complex...>> The NV20 is probably the same size as a Voodoo3 (keep in mind the Voodoo3 was produced using 0.25 micron technology). Crucial PC1600 DDR - 256MB $144, thats end price for the consumer...Thats 256MB of DDR...
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- Post #73
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<...Also, isn't the NV25--closer to what the Xbox ix than NV20--supposed to have something to the effect of tile rendering? That would eliminate the need for the ultra fast memory...>> Nvidia's HSR is nowhere near as effective as a deferred renderer, nor does Nvidia's method benefit from the...
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- Post #72
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<...Consider this. The X-Box will essentially have an NV20 inside it. The X Box is supposed to sell all in for between $350 and $400. OK, MS is supposed to loose something on the hardware, to make back up on game licensing. But it can't be more than $100 or something they'll loose per box. That...
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- Post #69
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<...Thats 14 different variations for a single chip...>> BenSkywalker those are graphic cards you've listed, show me where Nvidia has 14 different variations on a single chip. You can't answer that because they don't. Oh and those prices are rumored prices for the NV20 but then $500 for the...
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- Post #68
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

IMO switching memory from DDR to SDRAM or from 32 megs to 16 megs of ram really doesn't designate it as a new speed grade. Nvidia has many different chips but not many speed grades for each chip. Intel & AMD have many different speed grades for each new chip that comes off the production...
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- Post #64
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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Who will be the 'AMD' of video cards?

<<...Neither Nvidia or ATI is even close to owning 80% of the total market...Becuase none of them are dominating, I don't expect any of these companies to discount their products like AMD does against Intel...>> Thats their problem though, how can they expect to dominate a market with prices...
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- Post #24
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<Well, if we look at board level differences(listed ~in order of gaming performance, not price)- GeForce2 Ultra GeForce2 Pro Quadro2 Pro GeForce2 GTS 64MB GeForce2 GTS 32MB Quadro GeForceDDR 64MB GeForceDDR 32MB Quadro2 MX GeForce2 MX 32MB GeForce2 MX 16MB GeForceSDR 16MB >> Yes but some of...
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- Post #58
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

<<How much was a P3-1GHz last year? Why no one ever bitches about the insane price of top of line CPU?...>> Easy, Nvidia doesn't produce 5 to 8 speed grades of graphics chips, and its easier to overclock an Intel cpu than a Nvidia GPU. When there is only one choice, who are you going to turn...
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- Post #48
- Jan 28, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building
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NV20 : Isn't it expensive?

I remember an ATI guy saying something about 1 less competitor having no effect on prices...lol.
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- Post #27
- Jan 27, 2001
- Forum: Computer Building

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