This is what I was asking myself when I read the news - are they cancelling all 7nm or just FinGet 7nm, the latter would imply that 7nm could pop later in a year or to as SOI HP node ...
Since AMD has more money now and uses TSMC and GloFo, which means they need to adapt the masks and design to a different process anyways, I thin a selerat desktop version is very likely - server tsmc, desktop glofo
If AMDs plan was along to go "uncore" via chipsets you might be wrong. The Zen and Infinity fabric design is really flexible even with Zen1 - look at TR2 32c with only 4 mem channels, 2 dies are just "core cpu" and are connected to the other 2 for memory.
After the SA article from Charlie how...
8c makes only sense if AMD moves the uncore part to a different chip - so the core chip is smaller and yields are better. The author of this thread addressed that, it looks like you missed that part
If AMD really is confident with Zen2 and 7nm a would assume they have 15-20m wafers/month as minimum - I bet AMD could even outlpay Nvudia here if they wanted to an if they have such a winner in their pockets as this would benefit AMD on the GPU side as well.
However I strongly disbelieve in...
Starship was supposed to be 48c which is an increase of 50% over Epyc - yes 50% increase from Gen 1 to Gen 2!
Hello Intel, what did u do the last 8 years??? - sorry can't hear ya while you're drowning in a sea of Zen...
Now in 2018 it looks like it might be a 64c Rome chip - thats a 100%...
I think naming is simple:
Ryzen = Zen
Ryzen 2xxx = Zen+ = 12nm improved process and some architecture tweaks that are in Raven Ridge and didn't make it on it Ryzen in 2017
Ryzen 3 = Zen 2 probably on 7nm
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If you want to thank AMD and make sure this continue,s you should buy an AMD CPU - because if AMD can't catch up financially you wont have competition in 3-5 years and are stuck with Intel once and for all because AMD will not survive another downfall
Well the core increase would definitely take the steam out of any Intel offering even if it stays with frequencies 3.6-3.8Ghz - that would maybe even work with 12nm @ 95W TDP.
However 12nm with 12c and 4.6Ghz base @ 9w TDP - NO WAY. Only with 7nm at the end of 2018 or early 2019
In general I do agree.
But since AMDs CPU department pulled an IPC increase of over 52% and already integrated quite some changes into RR which were prior planned for Zen I wouldn't be surprised to see a higher bandwidth IF
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RR is 15w tdp- this thing has a lot higher yep, so no that's not the reason
It's an ingenious move from AMD to gain Radeon market share from Nvidia with Intel's help
Hell mist be freezing over at Nvidia if one thinks what could come next...
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