intel has problems with the strained silicon. It leaves the electron paths wide open and means there is less resistance meaning more leakage. It does allow for higher clock speeds.
Soi should help leakage some at least. It adds another layer to prevent it. I think the amd 90nm spec is 89 watts...
socket 939 3500+ price isn't that bad either.
Amd cut a bunch of athlon xp's out also.
The price cuts are rather large. The 3700 was only like 500 on the amd site down from 710 a week ago. :)
only in some of the tests, not all of them. The dothans are good, but you also need to look at why.
First from the ground up it is built to have a lot of power at low speed. It also has a massive 2mb l2 cache. You could load many programs entirely into that. That speeds it up greatly. The p4 EE...
ohh but intel wouldn't like that. Then their processor would still get what, 6.4 gb/s. In theory amd is at about 90-95% of the max of 12.8 so it should get >11 GB/s. With low latency ram, when would a xeon ever win again?
Oh well, intel will have to change.
I think the opteron is one of the...
It might seem like a good idea. I would say that amd would need to make sure that the technology is mature enough to migrate to. Amd cannot afford to make a mistake like intel did with their i915 & i925x.
It is possible though. The only other thing to point out is that graphics ddr is a...
you are right, that ht did hurt the xeon is some real world tests. I think this might be odd, but i do trust the site. They are fair to both sides. I don't think the results were skewed. I am not sure why it worked that way, but it did. :)
you are correct about outpacing the intel in corporate benchmarks. Is it possible to do a core revision that lengthens the pipeline 4 stages? It would seem to me that it is one of the first thigns that the team decides because then everything else is designed to make it as effective as possible...
You are right. I am saying that intel does have the bandwidth advantage. It might not mean much, it might mean a lot. We don't know yet. I haven't seen a benchmark suite that compares amd's ddr 400 to intels ddr-2 533
I didn't mean kill amd with a better product. I meant that they could...
you are right that they didn't use the greatest benchmarks, but the site does have a point. The nocona was a major upgrade for the xeon and it barely manages to beat an opteron. Now what if you did 4-p benchmarks. Then xeon is dead hands down. Even with ht (no one really needs 8-cpu's until you...
so in other words purchasing power would mean that you "have money"?
And why would YOU of all people get a "test" system from hp. Hp has opteron. They could care less about xeon. Nocona is for Dell, it was dell that twisted intel's arm. Period. Why don't you call your friendly dell rep and get...
for being an "inside" person signing nda's left and right you missed one thing i think. intel has never liked giving xeons to people to review, ever! Some sites get a hold of them, but they are few and far between. It is very rare that you see a major site with a xeon review, however they do...
i don't quite think so, if intel wanted to kill amd it would be possible. They would just have to do a lot of thigns that are border line illegal.
I am not saying that intel is better, i am simply saying that ddr-2 is. i could care less about intel.
The problem with hypertransport currently is...
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