So we're talking about X GB/s/core memory bandwidth.
But what X are we expecting to be needed, and for what use case(s), based on what?
And how to put that into context when also considering caches (at different levels) and IMC?
Just as an example: Video transcoding does not require much...
So nobody cared about the introduction of 1800X and the impact of that? Perhaps among the gaming crowd that was the case, but outside that crowd it was a big thing.
So we have this as top SKU on DT:
2017:
Intel 8700K: 6C/12T
AMD 1800X: 8C/16T
ST crown: Intel
MT crown: AMD
~2026:
Intel 285K successor: 48C/48T (or 52C/52T including LPE cores)
AMD 9950X(3D) successor: 24C/48T (or 26-28C/50-56T including LPE cores)
ST crown: AMD
MT crown: Intel
The tables...
Agreed, if the 12C Zen6 X3D part wins the gaming crown, a lot of gamers will get that CPU.
Zen6 24C will be SMT so it’s 48T, which is rougly the same number of threads as 52C/T for NVL-S.
Also, it’ll be 26-28C if you include the LPE cores on Zen6. So potentially 50-56T.
So the problem of...
And this is any different between TR and NVL-S or any other CPU how exactly?
Also, it’s actually any additional thread beyond 1, assuming you’re talking about Amdahl’s law. But I don’t think you recommend we should only use 1C CPUs. ;)
That’s one single specific use case. There are many others where you don’t need it, especially if we’re talking about ”only” 52C without SMT.
Not sure if you’re serious. You’re saying anything above 4C is memory bandwidth bottlenecked on Zen5/Zen6 and NVL-S?
So how many do they need? And which of the AMD TR 12-96C SKUs should AMD kill off?
And note that the user does not care if you label your CPU as DT or HEDT. What they care about is what performance you get for what price. They’ll buy whatever provides best perf per $, just like everyone else.
Again, you won’t be getting more performance with TR than 52C NVL unless you go for 64C+ TR. So 16-32C TR will not be sensible to get, unless AMD drops the price significantly on those.
Neither is TR. But we’re talking about what makes most sense to get for that small market segment.
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