It doesn’t matter, it’s a Pyrrhic victory.
Based on Intel 3 performance the odds are good that 18A is at parity with N3P, but if the supporting ecosystem isn’t competitive with what TSMC offers what is the point? Rationally speaking, why take such a gamble? If I’m running QCOM, AVGO or NVDA why...
Panther Lake is also partially external and it’s the lead client product for 18A.
By the time Nova Lake is out 18A will be mature and most likely better suited for a desktop chip where performance is a priority over N2 that has density and low power efficiency.
Okay, but that wasn't the metric we've used the past few years, why move the goalposts?
Are we really saying that the only efficiency metrics that matter now are at 200W+?
Do we actually know it’s less efficient? I haven’t seen any mainstream testing data except for nT performance at PL2.
The only graphs I’ve seen of a perf/watt curve shows ARL doing better in power limited scenarios in cinebench R23 & R24.
Yes, That was never going to happen. I think it's pretty clear that Intel needs a dedicated gaming SKU and without it, DIY desktop is basically gone forever. You cannot compete with the 7800X3D with the existing product segmentation, they're very different products. The 1T and nT performance is...
Do you really expect Zen 5 to win 100% of the benchmarks otherwise there’s a conspiracy going on?
I watched the video and it was created in 2011. Do you remember the state of the x86 CPU market in 2011? It was a totally different world back then - ARM was non existent in mobile and datacenter...
My standards were pretty low and I’m still disappointed. It seems Microsoft managed to mess up both AMD and Intel’s latest product launches with W11 issues.
There’s not a lot of definitive data on power scaling, was hoping ComputerBase would do that but no such luck. Would have been nice to...
JayzTwoCents never bashes new products, that’s just not his style of content.
HUB Steve will end up giving it a negative review based on its performance. He’s not going to go against the sentiment of his audience. It will probably seem like less criticism than what he gave Zen 5 but that was...
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