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Let's say Conroe and AM2 came out today

The reports I read said Conroe will be available from 1.8 to 2.8ghz. So, the review Anand did was on the max speed part. Remember, the Conroe is based on the old P3... it doesn't have 64 bit support... did you ever see a P3 that could clock to 2.8ghz? Plus
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- Post #48
- Mar 9, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Let's say Conroe and AM2 came out today

All things being equal, I'd choose AMD of course. If there were no AMD we'd be paying $1000 for a 700mhz cpu. Seriously, don't you have to give AMD credit for consistantly outperforming INTC with 1/10 the R&D budget? Go back and look at what INTC spent it's money on... most of the time...
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- Post #37
- Mar 9, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Disappointed by the Conroe launch

<<<Being unable to recognize the processor won't effect its functionality at all. All thats need is a microcode update to the BIOS, which is just an indentification string.>>> So, if you put your dual core part in a standard 939 motherboard, with a bios that was pre-dual core, it runs it just...
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- Post #53
- Mar 8, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Disappointed by the Conroe launch

Were you guys concerned in the least that the bios couldn't recognice the FX60? Probably normal right?
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- Post #50
- Mar 8, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Disappointed by the Conroe launch

FX60 is a 1mb cache part at 2.8ghz. X2 4600 is a 1/2mb cache part at 2.4ghz If it's an FX60 overclocked, than it has 1mb cache. They could overclock the X2 4600 to 2.8ghz, but it wouldn't run with the FX60. I'm just trying to note what details are actually provided, since there are...
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- Post #47
- Mar 8, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Disappointed by the Conroe launch

Well it would be real nice if Anand would tell us how big the file was on the INTC test, so we can repeat the same test on a proper FX60 platform to confirm it. Maybe this is just where INTC wanted to go - not enough details to disprove anything. We know the bios was whacked - it didn't...
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- Post #41
- Mar 8, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Disappointed by the Conroe launch

Anand calls the AMD part an "Athlon 64 FX-60 overclocked to 2.8GHz" yet in each of the benchmarks it's called an "AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.8ghz". So, is it an FX or an X2? Don't these things matter? Plus
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- Post #38
- Mar 8, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Disappointed by the Conroe launch

I've included links to the 32sec score that Anand got on the FX60 review, and the 73sec score INTC gets on their "overclocked" FX60 platform. Show me where I'm wrong: Anands own test: http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amd%...lon%2064%20fx60_010906100124/10510.png...
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- Post #34
- Mar 8, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Disappointed by the Conroe launch

A lot sounds fishy about this comparison. Didn't Anand run an mp3 encoding test last month and get a score about twice what INTC gets from the same FX60? The FX60 platform was crippled, and the fear bench ran in the 4mb cache on the Conroe. Intel is pretty desperate to have to stoop to...
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- Post #32
- Mar 8, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Test to confirm the AMD-60 numbers from the Conroe benchmark

Gee - would this be the first time Intel fudged a benchmark?
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- Post #13
- Mar 7, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Well, it looks like Conroe @2.66 eats a fx-60@2.8 for a light afternoon snack...UPDATED ARTICLE AT AT!

I"m pretty skeptical about the Intel published benchmarks on the Conroe... will be interesting to see what unfolds in the next few days. Plus
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- Post #17
- Mar 7, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Thinking about upgrading while waiting on Conroe

Pricewatch lists an A64-3400 for $145... why not use the ram you have, get a socket 939 motherboard, install winXP64pro, and see what happens to your performance?
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- Post #11
- Mar 7, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Thinking about upgrading while waiting on Conroe

I suggest a little healthy skepticism regarding the "Conroe" benchmarks. Even Anand comments "As far as we could tell, there was nothing fishy going on", basically acknowledging Intels long history of rigging benchmarks in their favor. Notice the bios on the AMD machine is dated 2003...
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- Post #9
- Mar 7, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Motherboards you want reviewed

I bought the ECS 755-A and found the bios a bit different than the chipset reference board already reviewed. For instance, I couldn't find a pci lock - and had some difficulty overclocking. Anyway - I'd like to see the ECS 755a looked at - it's the least expensive A64 mainboard at $74. Plus
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- Post #62
- Dec 29, 2003
- Forum: Motherboards

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