Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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you2

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Trent is wrong so often he's a meme. Occasionally he has something credible, so he could have a valid theory here, but I wouldn't make too much of it.
I think it puts a real crunch of Russia fuel supply for tanks and planes. Probably China is the only place they can import those supplies and not sure China is willing to do such. Also refinaries can take years to replace and cost billions; after all in the USA they dont' want to build more refinaries due to high cost and long term being depreciated due to alternative fuel sources.
 

misuspita

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Trent is wrong so often he's a meme. Occasionally he has something credible, so he could have a valid theory here, but I wouldn't make too much of it.
I am no expert, but refineries have a complex product mix and they could certainly impact both fuel and chemicals needed for ammo
 

Muse

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That's not how humans function.
It will be pure anarchy and tribal terrorism, or military dictatorship.
These people are not primed for anything we can call a Democracy.
Wasn't Gorbachev and Brezhnev a respite from Khrushchev?
 

fskimospy

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And let’s not pretend this is a ‘war crime’ guys. NATO has done this plenty of times.

Fuck around and fight out, right guys?
What’s amusing is that Russia is fucking around and finding out.

They are freaking out because the only useful thing Russia does for the world is oil and that is getting destroyed.

Lol.

Again though, you should be happy because this should make Russia desire peace, and you are a lover of peace.
 

cytg111

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Jaskalas

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Wasn't Gorbachev and Brezhnev a respite from Khrushchev?
Different time, different people.
I posit Russia was in much better condition in the 1980s. Decades of rot have only set them back further.
Look how utterly incompetent Putin and his military is. All they have is size and remnant stockpiles from the USSR.

Their first move was to bottleneck most their forces on a highway of death. They operated under the delusion Ukraine was bought and paid for. They attempted to operate a failed communications network and resorted to using personal cell phones. They have to drop bombs from the air to even compete with our HIMAR systems. Their logistics do not even use pallets.

No, while I think them capable of brute forcing a Genocide, I do not think humans have an innate capacity for reasonable outcomes. Thanks to the internet, I believe the independent thought necessary to ferment positive social change is dead and gone. In all of us. In that despair for humanity at large, the prospects of Russia's future is only viewed in blood. After all, they are the ones crying for more of it. Nuclear weapons mostly preclude us from staging an intervention. There will be no saving them from themselves. Not last time, and not this time.

Western civilization is a fluke that is not so easily replicated. It has to be prepared for and earned under the right conditions. Not that I could spell those out, but nothing about Russia tells me Democracy won't just be shot, stabbed, or poisoned. In fact, you could objectively say Russia is far less Democratic today than when Putin took power. The people who knew better are gone. Look at what remains.
 

kage69

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PAC-3 excellence takes care of yet another type of "unstoppable" Russian super weapon.


Wooooooooot WhatTheyCallWinning

The one I've been waiting for! That's fantastic and the timing is just perfect. *chef's kiss* What's a little more nut crushing embarrassment right now, eh Vlad?

As if the "sorry we need to keep this" treatment to current customers isn't enough. The world once again sees the best Russia has to offer can't compete with American weapons. Looks like Putin has more missile designers to imprison, no?
 
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JTsyo

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Another Russian ship hit. Ivan Khurs is a recon ship. This is in additional to the 2 landing ships that were hit. Seems Ukraine send over a wave of 18 cruise missiles at multiple targets while many were shot down, 7 hit.
 
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Leeea

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The PAC-3 isn't supposed to be this good.


I feel cheated as a US Taxpayer. The brochure never mentioned any of this! Stops all missiles known to man. ?!? If I had known that I would not have nearly so grumpy about paying for it.

I think the only person more upset is Winne the Pooh. Poor guy, he sunk how many trillions in hypersonics? What is he going to sink aircraft carriers with now?
 

trenchfoot

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The PAC-3 isn't supposed to be this good.


I feel cheated as a US Taxpayer. The brochure never mentioned any of this! Stops all missiles known to man. ?!? If I had known that I would not have nearly so grumpy about paying for it.

I think the only person more upset is Winne the Pooh. Poor guy, he sunk how many trillions in hypersonics? What is he going to sink aircraft carriers with now?

All things being the way they are for Putie, it looks like he's going to deploy mobik meat waves paddling out to sea in Chinese rubber ducky dinghies armed with North Korean RPG's. What could go wrong?
 
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you2

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All things being the way they are for Putie, it looks like he's going to deploy mobik meat waves paddling out to sea in Chinese rubber ducky dinghies armed with North Korean RPG's. What could go wrong?
Any chance india would declare war on Russia for forcing India citizen to fight in the meat wave ?
 

uclaLabrat

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Are these things legit ABM defense? Probably classified.
The PAC-3 isn't supposed to be this good.


I feel cheated as a US Taxpayer. The brochure never mentioned any of this! Stops all missiles known to man. ?!? If I had known that I would not have nearly so grumpy about paying for it.

I think the only person more upset is Winne the Pooh. Poor guy, he sunk how many trillions in hypersonics? What is he going to sink aircraft carriers with now?
 
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