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[DHT]Osiris

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ok so it's an English language fuckup thing.
Eh... it's a human organization and thought process thing. We like things to go in buckets, we have a hard time when the bucket changes, or when a thing goes in more than one bucket, especially if that bucket is shared with things that make no sense. The platypus doesn't seem to mind what buckets it gets put into but it causes no end of concertation amongst humans.

It's also specifically a problem with the 'stickiness' of language. Calling a thing that thing long, long past the point that we've generally accepted it isn't that thing anymore is a real problem.
Examples (most of these exist as the sole species of their family):
Electric eel, not an eel.
red panda, not a panda.
king cobra, not a cobra (they are kings though).
mountain goat, not a goat.
honey badger, not a badger.
mantis shrimp, not a mantis nor a shrimp.
American buffalo at least have a second, appropriate name. They aren't buffalo though.
flying lemur: doesn't fly, nor is it a lemur.
maned wolf: not a wolf.
horned toads: nope, not a toad.
koala bear: newp, not a bear.
virtually all fish: not whatever they're called.
special mention: mountain chicken. It's a frog.
 

lxskllr

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I'm speechless. It takes an easy job, makes it harder, and doesn't even work when used as directed. The handful of people in the country that could use a precise measuring and folding tool(catering professionals) don't even need it, cause they'd be slicing the meat themselves to exact thickness, and could fold 10x faster by hand.
 

kage69

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An Orca is a whale...

But whales are not orca. Orca are the largest of dolphins actually, and that fin's dimensions and shape look off for an orca, IMO.

That orange buoy you see in the background? Probably attached to a harpoon line, to tire the whale out and keep it near the surface. I'm familiar with Inuit and Yup'ik hunting bowhead and other whales for meat and maktaaq, also walrus and a lot of seals, but I've never heard of them going after 'the black fish.' Or orca showing up during a whale hunt and going after the hunters.

Then again, climate change and human activity, maybe getting the cold water ones as cranky as orca in the Atlantic and Med? I suppose it's possible
 
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kage69

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Eh... it's a human organization and thought process thing. We like things to go in buckets, we have a hard time when the bucket changes, or when a thing goes in more than one bucket, especially if that bucket is shared with things that make no sense. The platypus doesn't seem to mind what buckets it gets put into but it causes no end of concertation amongst humans.

It's also specifically a problem with the 'stickiness' of language. Calling a thing that thing long, long past the point that we've generally accepted it isn't that thing anymore is a real problem.
Examples (most of these exist as the sole species of their family):
Electric eel, not an eel.
red panda, not a panda.
king cobra, not a cobra (they are kings though).
mountain goat, not a goat.
honey badger, not a badger.
mantis shrimp, not a mantis nor a shrimp.
American buffalo at least have a second, appropriate name. They aren't buffalo though.
flying lemur: doesn't fly, nor is it a lemur.
maned wolf: not a wolf.
horned toads: nope, not a toad.
koala bear: newp, not a bear.
virtually all fish: not whatever they're called.
special mention: mountain chicken. It's a frog.

Yep, good list, though I think honey badgers are indeed badgers. Some fur and head dimension differences, but they're both from the same family of mustilidae and have similar behaviors. The relationship with honeyguides is the main difference, and is cool enough to make it into their name. I know mustilidae are smelly bastards, have scent glands they can use in self defense. While not as bad as a skunk, I think honey badgers are probably close. I've seen footage of them making other animals run off with a quick spritz.
 

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I'm speechless. It takes an easy job, makes it harder, and doesn't even work when used as directed. The handful of people in the country that could use a precise measuring and folding tool(catering professionals) don't even need it, cause they'd be slicing the meat themselves to exact thickness, and could fold 10x faster by hand.
The date was April fool's day so Imma give them the benefit of a doubt and say there were shenanigans afoot.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Yep, good list, though I think honey badgers are indeed badgers. Some fur and head dimension differences, but they're both from the same family of mustilidae and have similar behaviors. The relationship with honeyguides is the main difference, and is cool enough to make it into their name. I know mustilidae are smelly bastards, have scent glands they can use in self defense. While not as bad as a skunk, I think honey badgers are probably close. I've seen footage of them making other animals run off with a quick spritz.
Technically subfamily.
It is the only living species in the genus Mellivora and in the mustelid subfamily Mellivorinae. Despite its name, the honey badger does not closely resemble other badger species; instead, it bears more anatomical similarities to weasels. It is primarily a carnivorous species and has few natural predators because of its thick skin, strength and ferocious defensive abilities.
 

kage69

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Falling into a right angle of something immovable always sucks, but with your face?

*shiver*

Shit I'll take the ray. "Like getting stabbed with a dull, electrified bait knife" is what I've been told, but at least there's no chance of reconstructive surgery being required.
 
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kage69

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Technically subfamily.


There's a Marty Stouffer video out there where he's got footage of a mother wolverine coming across a North American badger defending a burrow. Positioned on top of the entrance she gets a hold of the badger and goes to town. Wolverine jaws mind you, hungry wolverine jaws. That little guy did the turn and nip just like the honey badger, and somehow didn't appear to suffer any puncture wounds either. Just like the honey badger getting held down and mauled by a lion, but still getting to rip up that nose, often without sustaining any damage. The wolverine didn't get hurt much IIRC, more of a 'not getting anywhere' tiredness set in and she just gave up. Off to find an elk shoulder or femur to snack on, you know something more manageable. Love them mustelids, the smell is the only problem. I found out last summer if a dog spooks a weasel they will go to olfactory war too, a different kind of scent but just as searing to the nostrils and eyes, it was so bad. Clung to the lawn and side of my house for more than 3 rainy weeks, that shit is unreal.

Now I have to look for that clip...
 
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