So then:
- demand facts
- get told facts
- claim the facts are all "opinions" or "whining" or "not facts enough"
- demand facts
rinse and repeat until we reach another 36000 messages of collective denial. All the facts that don't fit your propaganda's narrative are instantly not facts but opinions, all the opinions that fit your narrative are facts.
The funny thing is, your war is lost and it's an unavoidable result. It's about waiting for the result of this sad affair, and the sooner the better. I could tell you "we can just wait and see who's wrong and you can come back to me when I'll be proven wrong" but, you won't, because I won't. The game is already set. We may not even see a single card left to play yet. Ukraine just going to be a sad, slow murder of men who die for a lost cause. And I can't stop it, clearly even just trying to spread some knowledge about the situation online is a lost cause.
@Young Grasshopper has also already mentioned the deepest of the horrible mistakes of this war, the death of the Dollar as the monopolistic global currency, which you have done entirely by yourselves. The Empire managed to pick what was its greatest tools of pressure and control, dollar global monopoly for international trades and SWIFT, and shot both of them by kicking Russia out of it in the hopes that it would kill their economy. In the end, Russia is doing quite well without them, and this move will have the same effect as..................................
I actually can't find one. I can't think of a moment in History where a move this absurdly bad was ever played.
You had a way to tax the entire world through inflation thanks to the petrodollar. You had a way to control, monitor and block all international transfers in the banking system, or nearly all.
And you've shot them both by showing to the entire world that not using the dollar anymore would turn out fine, and giving Russia the incentive to create a SWIFT equivalent that they can just grow and provide to the world as an alternative.
You have taken a highly gas and petrol rich country, Russia, and forced it away from its natural economic and political partners in Europe, which you fully control as vassals, towards an alliance with a highly industrialised and populous country, China, that is thoroughly independent of you politically. And whose official goal is to retake its status as Greatest Empire on Earth after 150 years of humiliations (1830-1980).
The depth of this strategic mistake is beyond staggering, I can't think of a historical precedent this bad. Maybe firing Minister Calonne, which eventually led to the French Revolution. And that's peanuts compared to this.
While having every single card to play in hand, the U.S Empire has played them in a way that will destroy its global currency monopoly, its naturally dominant status, and its ability to control global trade. And you've offered China a forced partner that happens to have a ton of oil, when their lack of oil was one of their last resource issues along with lack of water. It's a self-own of tremendous proportions that will take decades to be truly felt to the last of its ripples.
I merely have to watch the rest unfold as it unavoidably will. And suffer the consequences as someone who lives in a vassal state to the Empire, but at least I know what to expect. In 10 or so years, Europe will be a shadow of what it was economically, the U.S will be suffering massive inflation (if you think TODAY's inflation is bad, wait for 2035), and there will be absolutely no walking back. And it'll only get worse from there.
The Empire held a crushing army, international trade control, could tax the world at will through money printing and the petrodollar paying for it, had strategic depth equal to what the British had in 1840, leaderless vassals across all Western Europe, Southeast Asia and Africa, a dominant position in the Middle East and held a massive advantage in the most advanced technologies, particularly weaponry, telecoms, chipmaking and pharmaceuticals.
By its incredibly poor moves in the Ukraine war, the American Empire has taken the dollar's hegemony and destroyed it. This and a certain Nordstream "accident" will suck away Europe's economies back to the U.S, since the vassals are always sacrificed before the Master, much like how Hungary, Czechia, Poland and East Germany were sacrificed before Russia fell in the late USSR. But when Europe, particularly Germany, will have been utterly spent, the U.S will face the hyperinflation that it can't dampen through international exchanges anymore, since any alternative will not suffer the same level of inflation and will be increasingly preferred.
The loss of the "free inflation" will mean that the U.S state will have to start facing its expenditures more strictly, which means that the massive army, massive navy, massive research expenditures, money that flowed into the biggest state-supported companies...everything will grow, for a lack of a better word, narrower. Giant pipes of money will become funnels. Funnels will become dead ends. The crushing military-industrial complex, state sponsored R&D, and whatever else that relied on the dollar not being Monopoly money, it's all going to go so painful as time goes on. All the while China irrevocably recovers its N°1 status with Russia in tow, as the West falls into an increasingly visible state of decay.
And much like the strategic situation in Donbass or Luhansk, that game is set. No credible amount of effort or plays will overturn this. You have moved History's gears into a position where the sheer weight of the world, that used to go your way, the "expensively inflationist, extraterritorial but oh-so-unavoidable Dollar" way, will now increasingly go to the competition that you forced to exist. And that's just the Russia moves. The China moves, getting them out of advanced chip/AI availability, is spurring even more efforts to get them to produce advanced chips and lithography. Sure, they rely on ASML, but for how long? 5 years? 10? Geopolitics is a long game, but the idiots who did this have somehow built a perfect block, with the industry, money, natural resources, and every single pillar necessary, against themselves.
SWIFT alternative and international trade currency to Russia, high volume industry and advanced technologies in semiconductors to China.
The Ukraine war will be marked down as the seminal event of the downfall of the U.S Empire, not because of what Russia will have done, but because of what the Americans will have done to themselves.
I still can't believe how poorly this was played. It's like having a perfect deck and somehow playing every card wrong. I would laugh if I wasn't going to be skewered and cooked along with the "This is fine" supporters.
The only silver lining is that two powers will not work as well as one, and that neither Russia or China are much interested in being a beacon of free trade. But the sheer weight of the world will push them into it.
I was going to answer to the rest, but frankly, I've already given you a lot, and got pretty much nothing but denial and insults for it. Trying to make you all think about the reality of what's going on is like feeding a pitbull with veggies. The pitbull vomits everything back, and you get your hands bitten for trying. So this'll be the last bit of wisdom from me. Spit at it, insult me, ignore it, call it "opinions", or whatever you please. Everything I said here, whether about the proxy war in Ukraine or the greater state of the U.S Empire, will come to pass nonetheless. It is only a question of time.