Discussion 2024 USA Election Thread: Biden and Dems might have problems in 2024 swing states - The Gaza Issue

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MrSquished

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People are so fucking stupid it is painful.
Agreed. Humans suck. A lot. This is why in my three dimensional life I stick to hanging out with the smart ones. I do count my blessings for where I live, because it's easy to do for me here. I know for some decent people who are vastly outnumbered by the stupid evil folks around them, it must be fucking tough on your mental state.

At least for those of us in good areas, we can go out and see the good things humans do quite easily.
 
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evident

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My Indian neighbor says he likes Biden but his family will be voting Trump because they hate inflation.

I said sure Trump will just wave a wand and it'll be gone.. he said nope but he is never voting democrat as they are racist and Trump at least loves Modi.

I asked how does that make our life better.. he said it doesn't but it makes him feel better.

Rolled my eyes but what can I do? At least it's New York.



P.S. Apparently Kamala being the daughter of a black guy is a bridge too far for some/ most Indian first gen people. I've heard a few snide comments about her.. you'd think they'd love her but nope.
He's either ignorant or subtly agrees with Modi's fascist right wing tendencies of eliminating his opposition and wants the same shit here. These idiot voters infuriate me more than the die hard trumper.... well... not sure about that either!
 

Indus

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He's either ignorant or subtly agrees with Modi's fascist right wing tendencies of eliminating his opposition and wants the same shit here. These idiot voters infuriate me more than the die hard trumper.... well... not sure about that either!
I've talked with his kid too..

The interesting juxtaposition I see is with the 2nd gen immigrants is that they absolutely despise Biden for giving it all to immigrants fresh off the boat. The "BUT I WAS BORN HERE" is license for them to hate everyone new coming in.

Truly racism and prejudice does not have a monopoly on just WASPs from the deep south.

But the thing that really pisses them off is stuff like this:

 

FelixDeCat

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Truly racism and prejudice does not have a monopoly on just WASPs from the deep south.
This isn't the 1940s. Most of the country is integrated, and all people hate some group or other everywhere. Stop being prejudiced against the South you moran.
 

MrSquished

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This isn't the 1940s. Most of the country is integrated, and all people hate some group or other everywhere. Stop being prejudiced against the South you moran.
Hey look it's the racist from Texas in the south of America!

American racists are everywhere but they are definitely concentrated in the South. Happy Confederate flag waving political party you piece of shit!
 
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FelixDeCat

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Hey look it's the racist from Texas in the south of America!

American racists are everywhere but they are definitely concentrated in the South. Happy Confederate flag waving political party you piece of shit!
Get a job you lowlife.

It's because of racists like you I have to vote for Biden even though I'd prefer not to.
 

eelw

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Until they take a picture of their ballot for Biden, I don’t believe any of these orange monkey butt kissers won’t end up voting for their orange monkey king no matter how much they insist they seen the light.
 

Indus

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Until they take a picture of their ballot for Biden, I don’t believe any of these orange monkey butt kissers won’t end up voting for their orange monkey king no matter how much they insist they seen the light.

Yeah I'm still not sold on it. If it happens.. we'll be as shocked as people are after an electric eel has it's way.
 

Stokely

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This isn't the 1940s. Most of the country is integrated, and all people hate some group or other everywhere. Stop being prejudiced against the South you moran.

It's not the 40s yet. People like Abbott and Desantis are trying their best to turn back the clock. Abortion illegal being one big example. Desantis trying whitewash history in curriculum, and banning hundreds of books. Lots of teachers leaving their states, but that is part and parcel of gutting education. It's no secret how how the voting numbers go when it comes to educated vs uneducated people. The less schooling, the better for the GOP. Lots of doctors leaving those states as well, particularly ones involved with women's health. But who gives a shit about that, if they manage to pump out more than a couple babies before having issues, that's a win on the percentages! I won't be surprised in the slightest if the gays are up against it right after the trans people, who they are trying hard to deny basic health care or the ability to use the fucking bathroom. Obviously that's another pesky group they hope leaves.

Is that population thing still a worry among the maga types? I always thought, let all the refugees in, solve that problem! Hmm, I can guess the problem there....

I'd say they are shooting more exactly for about 1919, before Women's Suffrage and of course long before blacks were able to vote. And a ton of GOP women would be a-ok with it. Unfortunately for them, a lot of college-educated women vote (thankfully).
 
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MrSquished

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There is absolutely no way in hell Felix is voting for Biden.

He'd have to have the absolutely perfectly syncopated and guided trip out in the desert or woods in a blissful setting for two weeks straight to perhaps see enough of a sliver of light to vote for Biden.
 

FelixDeCat

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Is the current President at fault for that?
Biden is at fault for a lot of things in this country but one thing he is not guilty of is being Trump.

Yes, he likely let in another two or three trillion more migrants in illegally and forgive billions more debt we can ill afford but hopefully by 2028 when Nikki Haley is finally sworn in we will reverse that trend.
 

ivwshane

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Only in a magatard alternative reality is doing things for the average American considered “buying votes”.
 

FelixDeCat

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There is absolutely no way in hell Felix is voting for Biden.

He'd have to have the absolutely perfectly syncopated and guided trip out in the desert or woods in a blissful setting for two weeks straight to perhaps see enough of a sliver of light to vote for Biden.
We must carry Biden (literally) to victory to prevent Trump from winning. This doesn't mean I won't remain critical however, but do we really have any choice?
 

APU_Fusion

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Everything is Biden’s fault. He is the snake in the garden. 🙄🙄

Wait until Trump’s tariffs and concentration camps are running. Biden’s inflation (which is world wide but people are too dumb to realize that I.e. 70% of Americans) will look like the Mariana’s trench to mt Everest.
 

Fenixgoon

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Just because you work at a taco stand wearing a clown suit doesn't give you the right to brag.

We are all barely getting by these days and here you are rubbing our face in it.
Aren't conservatives all about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? So what's your excuse? It's so easy!!
(Yes I'm being 100% sarcastic to lean into the point that pulling yourself by your bootstraps is a bullshit idea)
 
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MrSquished

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One thing we should not forget, Trump's greed and incompetence in many ways. Because they have taken over the RNC and are now going to milk it for money, the ground game is getting neglected financially in critical swing states. This can only help Joe Biden quite a bit. Gifted article from the WP, don't bother with the NYT rag.


“We’re focused on quality over quantity. I mean, how novel a concept,” top strategist Chris LaCivita told the crowd of top donors May 4 at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Fla., according to attendees.
The shift comes as President Biden’s campaign and its allies, buoyed by incumbency, have been moving in the opposite direction, building a more expansive operation sooner than in 2020. Strategists for both major parties expect Democrats to raise and spend more than Republicans over the coming months, a dynamic that has been magnified by the significant legal costs Trump’s fundraising apparatus has absorbed to defend him in state and federal courts.


The situation has alarmed GOP officials in key states like Arizona, Georgia and Michigan, who have yet to receive promised funding, staff or even briefings on the new plans since the Trump team took control of the Republican National Committee in March.

An earlier party blueprint for a general election build-out has been discarded, party officials say. Plans to open new offices have been scuttled. Hiring has been slowed.

“In order to win close elections in Georgia, you have to have a ground game that emphasizes turning out early votes and absentee votes,” said Cody Hall, a senior adviser to Gov. Brian Kemp (R). “I have seen no evidence of them having any of that. The Trump campaign has a consultant in Georgia, but there is nothing else that I can see. … Everyone is generally concerned.”

The original RNC plan for the state of Georgia, reviewed by The Washington Post, called for hiring 12 regional field directors in April and 40 field organizers by the end of May, in addition to eventually opening 20 offices and a community center in the College Park, a mostly Black suburb of Atlanta. Arizona was slotted to receive six regional field directors, seven offices and 23 field organizers by the end of May. Party leaders had drafted similar road maps for other battleground states before Ronna McDaniel was replaced as chairwoman.

The RNC’s plan at the start of this year was also focused on early voting, the plans show, though the Bank Your Vote website — once the centerpiece of the effort — has been offline for weeks as the party retools the program. “It is full speed ahead,” said James Blair, the national political director for both the Trump campaign and the RNC. “Stay tuned for more on the program.”

..... more article at link
 
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cytg111

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Trump must not win.

(And ironically I watched that movie last night) 😱
And ehm, what's the rationale behind this conviction?

edit: So you went for Nikki over Trump and when she withdrew you stayed on the sane side of the fence? Color me skeptical.
 

Indus

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Trump has already said he will not accept the election results if he doesn't win.

Why say such a thing unless you are not sane?

Democracy requires people to accept individual loss and the greater love of country.

Fascism requires people to accept greater love of oneself DEAR LEADER and pillaging and burning your own country.
 
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Stokely

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We must carry Biden (literally) to victory to prevent Trump from winning. This doesn't mean I won't remain critical however, but do we really have any choice?


On this I agree 100%, could have written it myself.

Though I don't see it as voting for Biden, it's voting for the Biden/Harris platform. That's why I don't worry about Biden keeling over after he's elected (though I do worry about him looking weak before.) A platform is, or should be, way more important than the personality running it. Then again, you can't have an utter incompetent like Palin in line but most vp (even Pence, though I detest his religious anti-gay shtick) are competent enough to keep what's in place. If you hire actual competent people to run depts like State/Defense/etc, and not just toadies put there to ransack like Trump did, those will be fine as well. Pump Biden full of speed or whatever to get him past the election, after that it's all good.
 
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