Drach
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Nah, just a kick in the culo since he sounds like a bad hombre.With his money?
Should pay for it with productivity gains, not further completely unsustainable increases in consumption. Feeding the beast of capitalism is a terrible reason to destroy the planet and what little shred of nature we have left.Why do you want population growth to end? Who is going to pay for all those promised social security benefits without new younger workers to pay into it?
Once the oceans cover up half our population centers due to our worshipping at the alter of growth, the degrowth will take care of itself.Quite evident the US is infected with the same self destructive degrowth based NIMBYism that the UK is. Their case is just more advanced.
Growth doesn't have to be carbon intensive.Once the oceans cover up half our population centers due to our worshipping at the alter of growth, the degrowth will take care of itself.
Republicans have always been against DACA, this is an example of the consequences of that.That's a reach even for someone as hate filled as you.
It doesn't have to be, but as of today it is. Regardless, all growth is extremely resource intensive, especially growth in first world countries.Growth doesn't have to be carbon intensive.
No it's not. It's the consequences of a mistake. The fellow was issued a government I.D and a social security number. He joined the Marines. He paid into the SS system for 40 years. It's time to write the man a check.Republicans have always been against DACA, this is an example of the consequences of that.
It doesn't have to be, but as of today it is. Regardless, all growth is extremely resource intensive, especially growth in first world countries.
Every one that gets a paycheck pays into SS, regardless of their citizenship.No it's not. It's the consequences of a mistake. The fellow was issued a government I.D and a social security number. He joined the Marines. He paid into the SS system for 40 years. It's time to write the man a check.
The law says otherwise who are you to question it?No it's not. It's the consequences of a mistake. The fellow was issued a government I.D and a social security number. He joined the Marines. He paid into the SS system for 40 years. It's time to write the man a check.
Sure, provide the policy choice that will lead to increased capitalistic growth without increased resource usage. The two can't be separated. You can separate specific types of resource usage, but not all. Population growth without consumption growth will not lead to economic growth.Certainly within our power to make different policy choices.
Sure, provide the policy choice that will lead to increased capitalistic growth without increased resource usage. The two can't be separated. You can separate specific types of resource usage, but not all. Population growth without consumption growth will not lead to economic growth.
We are over using all resources, not just fossil fuels, and we have not decoupled resource consumption growth from economic growth.If you're talking about rising oceans then I assumed your primary concern is carbon intensity. This is perhaps the easiest challenge to solve within our existing capabilities. We've decoupled economic growth from increased carbon emissions already.
We are over using all resources, not just fossil fuels, and we have not decoupled resource consumption growth from economic growth.
I do agree we could solve a lot of the carbon issue with policy choices that are very unlikely to be made any time soon. But that isn't going to do anything for the over use of water, the pollution of the oceans, or over fishing if the oceans.
I think it would be easier to use/tax productivity gains to get us out of the need for exponential population growth to prop up capitalism.
Obviously, that's just carbon, which I've said I'm talking about all resources. Infinite growth requires infinite resources, where are those infinite resources going to come from?
Obviously, that's just carbon, which I've said I'm talking about all resources. Infinite growth requires infinite resources, where are those infinite resources going to come from?
For example, the water to grow food for the ever increasing population? Or for that matter the helium for all the industrial and medical processes that are also needed for ever growing consumption?
So to be clear, you think we can and should support infinite consumption growth? That there will always be a technical solution to the ever increasing burden on the planet?Shitcanning the ethanol mandate would probably do us for a few centuries.
Substitution and technology improvements can reduce our need for helium. MRI manufactures have been able to cut requirements by more than 2/3rds per machine IIRC.
So to be clear, you think we can and should support infinite consumption growth? That there will always be a technical solution to the ever increasing burden on the planet?
How about nature, in 50 years do we just say that the local zoo is good enough? I mean, we are in the middle of the 5th mass extinction event and continued human growth will just accelerate that further.
I personally think it's better to stabilize and maybe slowly shrink the global population and allow our productivity gains to make up for the lack of labor. The world won't end if the billionaires can't grow their net worth 20% a year. Expensive labor encouraged productivity advancements.
I agree it is a global problem. I support immigration to the US, I'd prefer it happen through a decent/regulated system, over what we have today, though (which I think most people agree on).Good things typically do not happen to economies in nations with shrinking populations. US population growth is like one third what it was 30 years ago and is only maintained through immigration. My position is that the US can maintain a growth rate of say 0.5% annually and cut our environmental impacts at the same time. I'm just not sympathetic to the argument this is impossible simply because homeowners don't want to look out their windows and see a building over 2 stories.
Our ability to influence global population trends is limited but fortunately the Chinese are going to accidentally help is out there.
I can't think of a single good reason why a veteran would vote Republican when the party is hostile to veterans.Waiting for DeSantis’s election goon squad to show up at 2am to arrest him for election fraud. Oh wait, he’s not the correct demographic and he’s probably republican.
Cuz Democrats are commies!I can't think of a single good reason why a veteran would vote Republican when the party is hostile to veterans.
The same reason people who aren't millionaires vote Republican when the party is hostile to them.I can't think of a single good reason why a veteran would vote Republican when the party is hostile to veterans.
MISTAKE? Didn't stop prosecutors in Texas from sentencing Crystal Mason to 5 years in prison for 1 single vote and that was a mistake.No it's not. It's the consequences of a mistake. The fellow was issued a government I.D and a social security number. He joined the Marines. He paid into the SS system for 40 years. It's time to write the man a check.