That implies that free will, and randomness don't exist, which is false (they both exist).
That implies that free will, and randomness don't exist, which is false (they both exist).No it's not. As God is not confined by the space-time reality we exist in, he sees all events in the present moment. If I know, by some means, that you are going to crash your car tomorrow, that in no way implies that I caused it.
What? We all know God is not a “he” but a nonbinary turtle turtling all the way down … like game over manIf God is omniscient that means he knows what we will do and when, aka our behavior is deterministic and predetermined. It's absurd at the outset.
I love how a man presumed to know God's will, wrote a bunch of things more than a millenium after Jesus and then the Church decided he was right and adopted his views. Where was God in all this? Isn't that the very definition of blasphemy?In that case, I suggest you follow Jesus, rather than George Carlin. He has a much, more more compelling 'story' than Carlin. Then again, a lot of people have seen Carlin's comedy routine. Very few people have read Aquinas, Agustine, von Bathasar, Scott Hann or any number of past and present theologians.
But he was like … divinely inspired ….totally like trump and mike Johnson today … they hear God man … whisper, whisper ….I love how a man presumed to know God's will, wrote a bunch of things centuries after Jesus and then the Church decided he was right and adopted his views. Where was God in all this? Isn't thst the very definition of blasphemy?
The most perfectist words ever written took thousands of years to be revised...It's has to be read in light of later scriptures, particularly the word of Jesus in the gospels. Jesus show that these 'other gods' are things like love of money, materialism, adultery , etc (basically the vices). These things lead a person away from giving their whole self to God and become a form of idolatry.
God created this world knowing that kids would have cancer and I would crash my car tomorrow, he could have created the world where no one has cancer and I wouldn't crash my car. So yea, he caused it, knowing he'd cause it, with the power to not cause it.No it's not. As God is not confined by the space-time reality we exist in, he sees all events in the present moment. If I know, by some means, that you are going to crash your car tomorrow, that in no way implies that I caused it.
In that case, I suggest you follow Jesus, rather than George Carlin. He has a much, more more compelling 'story' than Carlin. Then again, a lot of people have seen Carlin's comedy routine. Very few people have read Aquinas, Agustine, von Bathasar, Scott Hann or any number of past and present theologians.
No, it’s not blasphemy. It didn’t happen instantaneously. Christ sent the Holy Spirit to baptized Christians so that they could unpack the mysteries of Devine revelation found in scripture. Go read his collected works. I’ll check back in with you in six months when you have a good grasp of the Summa. Then you can move on to the rest.I love how a man presumed to know God's will, wrote a bunch of things more than a millenium after Jesus and then the Church decided he was right and adopted his views. Where was God in all this? Isn't that the very definition of blasphemy?
It always falls back to something that isn't falsifiable. "This invisible thing told me something" isn't convincing, sorry.LoL the holy spirit told me Aquina was full of shit.
I don’t even know what sort of philosophy you studied to lead to such a confusing response to what I said.That implies that free will, and randomness don't exist, which is false (they both exist).
Okay, so this isn’t a discussion for you - just mind games. Fine.LoL the holy spirit told me Aquinas was full of shit.
How do you know which ones God was talking to and which ones were psychotic?No, it’s not blasphemy. It didn’t happen instantaneously. Christ sent the Holy Spirit to baptized Christians so that they could unpack the mysteries of Devine revelation found in scripture. Go read his collected works. I’ll check back in with you in six months when you have a good grasp of the Summa. Then you can move on to the rest.
How is his logic any different than yours? You’re taking on blind faith that the people you listed were actually inspired by god.Okay, so this isn’t a discussion for you - just mind games. Fine.
Prove he existed and we'll talk taters.
What do you mean? What makes Aquinas' beliefs any more valid than mine? Divine inspiration? We already have proof Catholic clergy should not be trusted.Okay, so this isn’t a discussion for you - just mind games. Fine.
The thing about all those philosophers is they stat off with the assumption that God exists and then go about proving it with some very circular logic.What do you mean? What makes Aquinas' beliefs any more valid than mine? Divine inspiration? We already have proof Catholic clergy should not be trusted.
I did spend 7.5 years in a Catholic country... So yeah Aquinas was covered in detail in high school.
Gotta love how the Satanist literature is always more intelligent and logical than the Christian/Islamic/whatever stuff.
There was some push to put Christian booklets into schools years ago here (FL) and the Satanic Church used the same law to put their own book up for circulation iirc. It actually was much better than the Christian one--but mainly I'm just grateful that the end result was getting that propaganda out of public schools.
Mind you, I think all of it including the Satan stuff is as real as Lord of the Rings. Nobody is stopping religious people from having their beliefs and meeting in church to celebrate them, despite all their whining. They are the ones trying to put their spiritual wang down and getting upset when people don't want it in their face. I'm sure there was similar gnashing of teeth way back in Greece when all the Zeus believers started losing membership when people realized fucking lightning wasn't a god throwing a spear. Eventually if we survive we'll grow out of this nonsense, hopefully. In the meantime, believe what you want but keep it in your pants and in your home and your church. Fuck off out of public schools.
If you did 'spend' 7.5 years in Catholic country and have studied Aquinas in detail, you should know the difference. Honestly, I don’t know why you are asking these questions. Also, since a statistically small number of priests, over the past 2000 years, have abused children, we should consider all of them untrustworthy. That is a ridiculous claim.What do you mean? What makes Aquinas' beliefs any more valid than mine? Divine inspiration? We already have proof Catholic clergy should not be trusted.
I did spend 7.5 years in a Catholic country... So yeah Aquinas was covered in detail in high school.
s. Also, since a statistically small number of priests, over the past 2000 years, have abused children, we should consider all of them untrustworthy. That is a ridiculous claim.
Circular arguments are not all that convincing. I have mentioned I lived in Buenos Aires for 7.5 years long ago and attended high school there. Clerical child abuse is a global problem.If you did 'spend' 7.5 years in Catholic country and have studied Aquinas in detail, you should know the difference. Honestly, I don’t know why you are asking these questions. Also, since a statistically small number of priests, over the past 2000 years, have abused children, we should consider all of them untrustworthy. That is a ridiculous claim.
I don’t know why I bother. Y'all hate Christians. You don’t even believe that Christian’s are Christians - just hypocrites. And God doesn’t or cannot exist or, he is the most horrible being ever.