I think 19 mph is used because that's when the tire noise takes over as the loudest part of the car, externally at least.
I think 19 mph is used because that's when the tire noise takes over as the loudest part of the car, externally at least.Yeah, I think they all do that. I should know as we own a Tesla, but somehow my oldest son gets to drive it....? I'm torn, it's fantastic to drive but I hate being seen to support that blithering asshole Musk. I sorta kid, I drive so little that it makes little sense for me to drive the least expensively fueled car, I get it.
So above 19mph--I doubt you'd hear most modern cars (EV or not) coming at you at speed in time to get out of the way. This isn't 1975 where everything is loud. Pay attention, both peds and drivers, and cross roads where you should.
Yeah, not like pedestrian deaths were super high in the 50s or 60s.One of the boomer skills we learned early in life that has disappeared.
"Look both ways before crossing"
Look at you! Here I was in a state of paralysis unable to take a position on the car pedestrian thingi having not been able to determine which position is supported by conservative and which by liberals. What if I get it wrong and get savagely condemned by all my kind liberal friends. And along you come both-siding the issue. Genius!Indeed both parties need to be held accountable. But since study is talking about lack of engine noise, he’s definitely pointing the finger at pedestrians to be more alert.
It goes both ways. You can be a perfect driver and a distracted pedestrian can still be impossible to predict.The onus is on the person running people over, not the other way around.
100% I have seen people standing on a corner blabbing or texting on their phone stationary, then all of a sudden lurch out into trafficIt goes both ways. You can be a perfect driver and a distracted pedestrian can still be impossible to predict.
Sounds like something made up by someone who doesn't understand statistics.That is a design issue. LoL how can jaywalking be safer than designated crossing points?
Ban all bicycles, or enforce all vehicle laws on bicyclists. One or the other.Anything I’m missing?
- EVs should make a minimum amount of noise at low speeds to alert pedestrians they are moving to avoid collisions
- Pedestrians should look before crossing the road to avoid collisions
- Operators of vehicles have the responsibility to avoid collisions with others especially with others in smaller, lighter vehicles or no vehicle at all.
- Civil engineers should design infrastructure that deconflicts pedestrians, bikes, and motorized traffic wherever possible.
As I've said, our infrastructure is very hostile to walkers and bikers. Intersections are more dangerous than Jay walking due to high speed right hand turns, where the turner is looking away from the sidewalk, people running red light, left turn after yielding where again the driver is looking the wrong way.That is a design issue. LoL how can jaywalking be safer than designated crossing points?
That is a design issue. LoL how can jaywalking be safer than designated crossing points?
Yeah, let me tell you about all the times I've almost been hit by a car while running out walking my daughter to school because car drivers couldn't be bothered to look both ways or any ways. It's amazing how many people do right hand turns in neighborhoods without ever looking to the right. Doesn't matter how much high vis shit I wear when the driver never looks.100% I have seen people standing on a corner blabbing or texting on their phone stationary, then all of a sudden lurch out into traffic
You people should elect people that respect your interests...I have the opposite problem. They keep adding no right on red signs to intersections that don't have pedestrians most of the time.As I've said, our infrastructure is very hostile to walkers and bikers. Intersections are more dangerous than Jay walking due to high speed right hand turns, where the turner is looking away from the sidewalk, people running red light, left turn after yielding where again the driver is looking the wrong way.
Crossing in the middle of a road the drivers are looking straight down the road, only 2 directions of traffic, and no expectations that cars will stop.
Further, the majority of pedestrian deaths occur on high speed roads without sidewalks.
I was personally hit by a car as kid biking along a 50 mph road with no sidewalks. I was riding in the grass, hit a mud puddle that turned me out into the road. Half a second either way I probably would've been killed. All because we as a society will spend billions subsizing cars but would spend the tiny percent extra to put in a sidewalk.
"You People?" What is that people that don't think walking from one place to another place is deserving of the death penalty?You people should elect people that respect your interests...I have the opposite problem. They keep adding no right on red signs to intersections that don't have pedestrians most of the time.
As in your elected officials decide city planning and well voters decide who they are. Planners can come up with plans, but if elected offcials reject them, there isn't much the planners can do."You People?" What is that people that don't think walking from one place to another place is deserving of the death penalty?
But in NA, we've also made even neighborhood roads too wide, so it makes it easier for people to speed. There is a big difference if you hit someone going 10-15 mph vs 30 mph when they dart into the road.I mean, sure, I try not to run over kids chasing balls. But the car is not going to stop on a dime. There are physical limitations to how fast I can stop.
Our residential streets are 40km/h and there are speed bumps and stop signs.But in NA, we've also made even neighborhood roads too wide, so it makes it easier for people to speed. There is a big difference if you hit someone going 10-15 mph vs 30 mph when they dart into the road.
Making the road narrow does far more good at slowing people down than stop signs and speed bumps, unless there are just a lot of speed bumps.Our residential streets are 40km/h and there are speed bumps and stop signs.
Well it's two lane with room for parking. My own street is narrower still since it is a dead end.Making the road narrow does far more good at slowing people down than stop signs and speed bumps, unless there are just a lot of speed bumps.
Hypermiling or running down pedestrians, pick one.I've been trying to run people down since I got a hybrid but haven't had any luck yet.
If I ever describe myself as a hypermiler, you guys have my express written permission to put a bullet in my brain pan.Hypermiling or running down pedestrians, pick one.
Apparently, they haven't heard of speed bumps in your area. They gone nuts with them here. My old shortcut became useless.But in NA, we've also made even neighborhood roads too wide, so it makes it easier for people to speed. There is a big difference if you hit someone going 10-15 mph vs 30 mph when they dart into the road.
I had no idea that there was a word for such tendencies, but I do some of those things myself (not the insane things like slipstreaming and switching the engine off while on the move).If I ever describe myself as a hypermiler, you guys have my express written permission to put a bullet in my brain pan.