You can't go full dictator till you have confiscated the guns. Of course, if they find a MAGA hat with your guns, they will probably give you a pass.I don't know if it's going to happen or not, I tend to think there's a non-zero chance that Project 2025 will attempt to strip LGBTQ+ people of gun ownership rights by way of being declared not mentally fit--for starters. Could be defeated/tied up in court at a federal level, resulting in the shithole states trying to roll their own versions in the meantime.
That what they want you to believe.I thought it was the negro coming for your guns?
If you've bought a gun legally in the recent past (1998?), there could be a corresponding log in the NICS. Or, have you ordered ammunition at some point? Probably worth checking up if you've got firearms. Have your ISP and Google and Meta provide logs for anyone that's made searches that indicate an interest in firearms.They can only come after your guns if you have them registered…
That varies to some extent based on state laws. There are many legal gun purchases that does not create a paper trail, typically the ATF Form 4473, or even require a NICS check with the FBI.If you've bought a gun legally in the recent past (1998?), there could be a corresponding log in the NICS. Or, have you ordered ammunition at some point? Probably worth checking up if you've got firearms. Have your ISP and Google and Meta provide logs for anyone that's made searches that indicate an interest in firearms.
Just EO it to be a federal felony to be LGBTQ+, that'll keep them from voting or owning arms.I don't know if it's going to happen or not, I tend to think there's a non-zero chance that Project 2025 will attempt to strip LGBTQ+ people of gun ownership rights by way of being declared not mentally fit--for starters. Could be defeated/tied up in court at a federal level, resulting in the shithole states trying to roll their own versions in the meantime.
Sure, I'm just refuting the notion that they can only come after them if they're registered, because that is definitely not the case.That varies to some extent based on state laws. There are many legal gun purchases that does not create a paper trail, typically the ATF Form 4473, or even require a NICS check with the FBI.
I "might" own a few of these, again purchased 100% legally.
That's probably a tougher route to take than just making it a mental health thing.Just EO it to be a federal felony to be LGBTQ+, that'll keep them from voting or owning arms.
So far Trump seems perfectly happy taking a steamroller to any route he wishes to make it as smooth as he'd like. Not sure why this would be any more difficult for him.That's probably a tougher route to take than just making it a mental health thing.
Making "being LGBTQ+" a federal felony is a much larger undertaking as far as enforcement and scope of impact, and likely to be much less well-received than the mental health route.So far Trump seems perfectly happy taking a steamroller to any route he wishes to make it as smooth as he'd like. Not sure why this would be any more difficult for him.
Only 7 states and DC require you to "register" your guns.Sure, I'm just refuting the notion that they can only come after them if they're registered, because that is definitely not the case.
One thing to keep in mind, the ATF just has a huge backlog of paper records because Republicans hate the ATF, routinely starve it of funding, and prohibit any sort of digitization that could become a de facto gun registry.Only 7 states and DC require you to "register" your guns.
In my state (NC), I had to apply to the county sheriff for a pistol purchase permit to buy a hand gun. They did whatever background check was done. At time of purchase from an FFL (Federally Licensed Firearm Dealer) the 4473 for was filled out, and the purchase authorized with the PPP (pistol purchase permit) issued by the sheriff.
The 4473 form actually never left the store, but the store was required to keep them on file, and allow the ATF to examine them. If the dealer went out of business, then all the 4473's were surrendered to the ATF. They were never used to create a database. Once I received my CHP (concealed handgun permit) all I have to do is show the permit at time of purchase. Again, the actual information on the purchase, never leaves the FFL's store.
If I bought a gun in a private sale, all I had to do was show the seller my CHP. I did a Bill of Sale on most of these, but more of a CYA for both of us.
Now, after laws were changed in NC, to purchase a gun, handgun or long gun, it is done via the FFL calling the NICS for approval, or by showing your CHP. If NICS was called by the dealer, it in no way implies that a purchase was made. They changed their mind, their CC was declined, or whatever. Dealers calling NICS was the method used in most stated, probably still is.
So all the cop shows where they call in the SN of a gun, and immediately they tell them who the "registered owner" is, is just theater, unless it is registered in a state that requires it.
AmeriKKKa loves to blame the negro for everything.I thought it was the negro coming for your guns?
There was a clear demonstration locally how the ability to track goes. This happened probably 6 years ago. It's a slow process...One thing to keep in mind, the ATF just has a huge backlog of paper records because Republicans hate the ATF, routinely starve it of funding, and prohibit any sort of digitization that could become a de facto gun registry.
Real model of efficiency there for seizing peoples guns.There was a clear demonstration locally how the ability to track goes. This happened probably 6 years ago. It's a slow process...
This took almost 9 months from the time the body was found until positively identified, and the fact the person that made the original purchase never sold it to someone else.
- A body, actually a skeleton, was found in a very remote area. No ID with the body.
- A Glock handgun was found with the body.
- Authorities then contacted Glock, who provided the FFL dealer they sold the gun to
- Authorities then went to that dealer, who had a log book of all sales, and the 4473 from the sale, a literal paper trail.
- Through this, and likely confirming identity through dental records or other means, the man was identified.
I feel like you're not reading what I'm actually saying? Literally my entire point was they can still apply other methods to investigate who else might have firearms even if they aren't registered.Only 7 states and DC require you to "register" your guns.
In my state (NC), I had to apply to the county sheriff for a pistol purchase permit to buy a hand gun. They did whatever background check was done. At time of purchase from an FFL (Federally Licensed Firearm Dealer) the 4473 for was filled out, and the purchase authorized with the PPP (pistol purchase permit) issued by the sheriff.
The 4473 form actually never left the store, but the store was required to keep them on file, and allow the ATF to examine them. If the dealer went out of business, then all the 4473's were surrendered to the ATF. They were never used to create a database. Once I received my CHP (concealed handgun permit) all I have to do is show the permit at time of purchase. Again, the actual information on the purchase, never leaves the FFL's store.
If I bought a gun in a private sale, all I had to do was show the seller my CHP. I did a Bill of Sale on most of these, but more of a CYA for both of us.
Now, after laws were changed in NC, to purchase a gun, handgun or long gun, it is done via the FFL calling the NICS for approval, or by showing your CHP. If NICS was called by the dealer, it in no way implies that a purchase was made. They changed their mind, their CC was declined, or whatever. Dealers calling NICS was the method used in most stated, probably still is.
So all the cop shows where they call in the SN of a gun, and immediately they tell them who the "registered owner" is, is just theater, unless it is registered in a state that requires it.
by law the ATF or any government agency (local/state/federal) cannot have any records, database or log of your gun purchases, gun ownership, including ammo. The only people who can have such records are gun dealers themselves. Such records can only be obtained thru a trace request of the serial numbers thru the NTC. No serial number, no access to who owns what.That varies to some extent based on state laws. There are many legal gun purchases that does not create a paper trail, typically the ATF Form 4473, or even require a NICS check with the FBI.
I "might" own a few of these, again purchased 100% legally.
I understand that, but I feel many don't, as perpetuated by cop shows on TV, where they run the SN of a gun, and go arrest the guy.I feel like you're not reading what I'm actually saying? Literally my entire point was they can still apply other methods to investigate who else might have firearms even if they aren't registered.
LOL! most neighbors don't have a clue who owns a gun in their neighborhood. You are reaching if you think people are going to start calling and reporting people they "think" has a gun as the country is burning down around them.I understand that, but I feel many don't, as perpetuated by cop shows on TV, where they run the SN of a gun, and go arrest the guy.
When republicans begin to fear an armed public, they will pull out all the stops, including tip lines to turn in your neighbor.