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eelw

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The left keeps saying he's Canada Trump but he's not even close. All the "maple maga" stuff is just to scare people. What's weird to me is how liberals don't like the idea of wanting to improve the country. That's what maga means. To make things better. Just shows how people can be sheep though and fall for propaganda. This is why independent media is so important, and also why the liberals have been trying to clamp down on it. They even want to start banning websites like X and highly regulate what you're allowed to say online. The real facists are the people that actually support this sort of iron fist ruling.
Get real. As if the other parties don’t want to make Canada great also. The reason I and many others label our Conservative party as Maple MAGA is because they pander to Nazis.
 

MrSquished

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We flushed a turd, and now there's already another in the toilet. Hopefully people are smart during the actual election which is rumoured to be in late April or early May. We need serious governmental change here and not some insider full of conflicts of interests. Carney actually moved his company to the states, so he has no intention to make Canada a good place to do business if he felt his company would not do well here. He's also part of the WEF among many other boards. He's a true insider.

The propaganda machine has been working full time though and the polls don't look good. We need to get rid of the liberals entirely, it was not just Trudeau the issue but the entire ideology of the party, he was just the leader of it. I watched a lot of the Liberal speeches and there is zero substance to it, it's all word salad and they don't even address the major issues we face such as cost of living, crime rate, drugs, mass immigration, homelessness, etc... All the problems they created in the past 10 years. Only Poilievre actually wants to address those things. He also has a better plan to deal with the tariffs, such as diversifying our exports, building pipelines, refining our own oil etc. We should be more self sufficient, while also diversifying our exports.

I think what we're seeing with Carney is the Kamala effect though. Same thing happened with her. Ratings went sky high but it was a dud. What people need to realize is that Poilievre would actually be more democrat than conservative in the states. The left keeps saying he's Canada Trump but he's not even close. All the "maple maga" stuff is just to scare people. What's weird to me is how liberals don't like the idea of wanting to improve the country. That's what maga means. To make things better. Just shows how people can be sheep though and fall for propaganda. This is why independent media is so important, and also why the liberals have been trying to clamp down on it. They even want to start banning websites like X and highly regulate what you're allowed to say online. The real facists are the people that actually support this sort of iron fist ruling.

Pierre nails it here:


You should sit down and shut up. You announced today you are too lazy to go to school or any kind of learning in order to increase your desirability in the workforce, because you are too lazy to work and learn at the same time. You are a beneficiary of the urban areas of Canada subsidizing your rural living because it requires subsidies in order to survive. You are in your thirties and self-admittedly too fucking lazy to adapt to a changing work environment by educating yourself further in any manner - I mean that is just pathetic. Your overall existence is a that of a leech on the overall Canadian economy, and instead of wanting to make yourself better you are too damn lazy to do so. Instead all you do is complain about the hands that feed you.

What a sad pathetic existence. You are a parasite because that is the very definition of one.
 

rommelrommel

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PP won't even get the security clearance check every opposition leader got in the past. That is how slimy he is.
That is pretty misleading, he declined clearance to hear one specific file because it came with restrictions on what he could do with the information. Even the previous NDP leader agreed and said he'd refuse it too. And then they gave him access anyways as they know he's not a security risk.
 
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sdifox

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That is pretty misleading, he declined clearance to hear one specific file because it came with restrictions on what he could do with the information. Even the previous NDP leader agreed and said he'd refuse it too. And then they gave him access anyways as they know he's not a security risk.
If you want to be PM, you are going to hear all sort of things and be subject to all sort of information control. It has always been that way. Jagmeet Singh and Elizabeth May both got the clearance and talked about the foreign interference case, just not revealing names.
 
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rommelrommel

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If you want to be PM, you are going to hear all sort of things and be subject to all sort of information control. It has always been that way. Jagmeet Singh and Elizabeth May both got the clearance and talked about the foreign interference case, just not revealing names.
Tom Mulcair isn't exactly a dope, and has a lot more integrity than those two.

Anyways, it's still misleading at best to say Poilievre doesn't have security clearance, he does.
 
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Red Squirrel

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Get real. As if the other parties don’t want to make Canada great also. The reason I and many others label our Conservative party as Maple MAGA is because they pander to Nazis.
You people are getting so pathetic with calling people you don't agree with a nazi. It doesn't even make sense. Wanting to improve the country has nothing to do with nazism. It's actually an insult to holocaust victims to call someone nazi just because you don't agree with them, when ACTUAL nazis were actually horrible people that actually KILLED others.

That security clearance thing is a nothingburger. The liberals keep bringing it up, because bringing up bitcoin no longer works considering anyone who would have bought that time would be rich right now. The left has nothing of value to bring against him so it's all cheap shots and name calling. Unfortunately, it does work to some degree and people do fall for it.

The entire Liberal platform has been about how to take down Trump and Poilievre. Nothing about how to actually improve the country. If they wanted to improve the country they would have done it during the last 9 years.
 
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eelw

Lifer
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You people are getting so pathetic with calling people you don't agree with a nazi. It doesn't even make sense. Wanting to improve the country has nothing to do with nazism. It's actually an insult to holocaust victims to call someone nazi just because you don't agree with them, when ACTUAL nazis were actually horrible people that actually KILLED others.
Yup Poilievre meeting with the freedom convoy wasn’t pandering to the Nazis. Smith doing a town hall with Carlson isnt another example. Let’s ignore the orange apologists that voted for a self proclaimed Hitler lover.

Okay with this being said, yes I’m not calling you a Nazi. But you attempting to hand wave away all the examples of this Nazi pandering that the base you support just shows party over country and how you’re willing to burn everything down just to “pwn the libs!!!”
 

coldmeat

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Hitler just wanted to Make Germany Great Again, don't know why you libtards have such a problem with making a country great.
 
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Red Squirrel

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Yup Poilievre meeting with the freedom convoy wasn’t pandering to the Nazis. Smith doing a town hall with Carlson isnt another example. Let’s ignore the orange apologists that voted for a self proclaimed Hitler lover.

Okay with this being said, yes I’m not calling you a Nazi. But you attempting to hand wave away all the examples of this Nazi pandering that the base you support just shows party over country and how you’re willing to burn everything down just to “pwn the libs!!!”

Nothing about the freedom convoy had to do with nazism. They were simply asking for basic freedoms that should have never been taken away. Like being allowed to work without having to take an experimental drug, and for small business to be allowed to operate again, for moms to be able to go watch their kids play hockey, and other basic things. That is the year Trudeau should have resigned, since he was too much of a coward to talk to them and had to use his dad's war measures act against them instead. If anything he's the one that acted more like a fascist.
 

Red Squirrel

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Hitler just wanted to Make Germany Great Again, don't know why you libtards have such a problem with making a country great.

That doesn't even make sense. Hitler killed people and was actually evil, nothing he did was to make Germany great.

Trump, Poilievre, the freedom convoy or any other organization or person you people demonize just want a better world. Can't even compare the two, and again it's a disgrace to those who actually died because of Hitler.

How is it that wanting more freedom from government, lower taxes, less crime, less mass immigration, less waste, less bureaucracy, better life affordability etc is even seen as something evil? Why would you not want any of those things?
 
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trenchfoot

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The real question to ask is why is MAGA considered bad? Why is it bad to want to make your country great again? That's all we want. Liberalism is a disease that puts itself and the establishment first, at the expense of the people. Conservatives are for the working class and for a smaller government that spends less and takes less from us. That is badly what we need right now. Trudeau's out of control spending and lack of thought on monetary policy and thinking the budget will balance itself is hurting all of us and the damage will be felt for generations. Harper was right when he said Trudeau will be a disaster for Canada. I didn't even like Harper at the time, but looking back he was a way better PM. I would love to think the conservatives can bring us back to good times, but I don't know if even they will be able to fix this mess. But they are the best choice out of the available candidates.

Make your country great again like how Trump and Musk are eviscerating the hell out of what once a stable functioning gov't that was on the side of the free democratic nations of the world and is now on the side of the world's dictatorships ala Putin? Is that what you actually really want for Canada? To be another one of Putin's puppets? Because this is what MAGA stands for here in the USA. This is what is plain and obvious for the whole world to see. You want to deploy a Trump v2.0 MAGA coup in Canada after seeing what Trump and his co-president Musk is doing at this very moment to what was once "The Shining Beacon" now turned into a racist supremacist camp of Manifest Destiny Maniacs? Bad luck with that.
 

ivwshane

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That doesn't even make sense. Hitler killed people and was actually evil, nothing he did was to make Germany great.

Trump, Poilievre, the freedom convoy or any other organization or person you people demonize just want a better world. Can't even compare the two, and again it's a disgrace to those who actually died because of Hitler.

How is it that wanting more freedom from government, lower taxes, less crime, less mass immigration, less waste, less bureaucracy, better life affordability etc is even seen as something evil? Why would you not want any of those things?

Those who are ignorant of history are bound to make the same mistakes our forefathers made. Your ignorance and the ignorance of others like you will be everyone’s problem. Open a freaken history book. People aren’t using the term nazi simply because your opinions are different (hint: your opinions aren’t different), they are using that term because a political party is using the very tactics nazi’s used to achieve their agenda. If you weren’t so ignorant of history you’d know that Nazis’s didn’t go from a right wing political party to genocide in one step.
 

Red Squirrel

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Those who are ignorant of history are bound to make the same mistakes our forefathers made. Your ignorance and the ignorance of others like you will be everyone’s problem. Open a freaken history book. People aren’t using the term nazi simply because your opinions are different (hint: your opinions aren’t different), they are using that term because a political party is using the very tactics nazi’s used to achieve their agenda. If you weren’t so ignorant of history you’d know that Nazis’s didn’t go from a right wing political party to genocide in one step.

The whole nazi thing is just fearmongering. The way Hitler rose to power was way closer to how liberals rule today so if we're going to start comparing it should be the liberals. Removing guns, freedom of expression, chipping away at various other freedoms one at a time, allowing crime to run rampant in order to create chaos, trying to erase an entire race by flooding with another, wanting to segregate and divide people, ruling with an iron fist, propaganda everywhere, wanting war etc. That's all liberal stuff. The conservatives want to end that stuff, run a smaller government, and leave people alone.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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The whole nazi thing is just fearmongering. The way Hitler rose to power was way closer to how liberals rule today so if we're going to start comparing it should be the liberals. Removing guns, freedom of expression, chipping away at various other freedoms one at a time, allowing crime to run rampant in order to create chaos, trying to erase an entire race by flooding with another, wanting to segregate and divide people, ruling with an iron fist, propaganda everywhere, wanting war etc. That's all liberal stuff. The conservatives want to end that stuff, run a smaller government, and leave people alone.
Same song and dance, as MAGA and Nazis.
 
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Fenixgoon

Lifer
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The whole nazi thing is just fearmongering. The way Hitler rose to power was way closer to how liberals rule today so if we're going to start comparing it should be the liberals. Removing guns, freedom of expression, chipping away at various other freedoms one at a time, allowing crime to run rampant in order to create chaos, trying to erase an entire race by flooding with another, wanting to segregate and divide people, ruling with an iron fist, propaganda everywhere, wanting war etc. That's all liberal stuff. The conservatives want to end that stuff, run a smaller government, and leave people alone.
i know people like to ask "are you a communist because you sure love being publicly owned". now i also "do you love BDSM? because you sure like licking boots"
 
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sdifox

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Tom Mulcair isn't exactly a dope, and has a lot more integrity than those two.

Anyways, it's still misleading at best to say Poilievre doesn't have security clearance, he does.
Alright, let me rephrase, PP refused to get the security clearance necessary to access the Foreign Interference investigation briefing. The report has since been released.


Here is an article with ex security officials commenting on PP's issue


He even refused the briefing after CSIS agreed to wave the security clearance. PP is just not a serious man.

 
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sdifox

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You people are getting so pathetic with calling people you don't agree with a nazi. It doesn't even make sense. Wanting to improve the country has nothing to do with nazism. It's actually an insult to holocaust victims to call someone nazi just because you don't agree with them, when ACTUAL nazis were actually horrible people that actually KILLED others.

That security clearance thing is a nothingburger. The liberals keep bringing it up, because bringing up bitcoin no longer works considering anyone who would have bought that time would be rich right now. The left has nothing of value to bring against him so it's all cheap shots and name calling. Unfortunately, it does work to some degree and people do fall for it.

The entire Liberal platform has been about how to take down Trump and Poilievre. Nothing about how to actually improve the country. If they wanted to improve the country they would have done it during the last 9 years.
Do point me to Pierre Poilievre's election platform, I would like to read it.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Nothing about the freedom convoy had to do with nazism. They were simply asking for basic freedoms that should have never been taken away. Like being allowed to work without having to take an experimental drug, and for small business to be allowed to operate again, for moms to be able to go watch their kids play hockey, and other basic things. That is the year Trudeau should have resigned, since he was too much of a coward to talk to them and had to use his dad's war measures act against them instead. If anything he's the one that acted more like a fascist.
So, do a Trump and let Canadians die with Covid-19?
 

eelw

Lifer
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Do point me to Pierre Poilievre's election platform, I would like to read it.
It’s a page out of the orange monkey playbook. Do the exact opposite of the other party.

As to Covid. While he’s not antivax, he pandered to them during the freedom convoy. He has to attract the Maple MAGA since like the orange monkey, he needs that base to win
 
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thilanliyan

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Nothing about the freedom convoy had to do with nazism. They were simply asking for basic freedoms that should have never been taken away. Like being allowed to work without having to take an experimental drug, and for small business to be allowed to operate again, for moms to be able to go watch their kids play hockey, and other basic things. That is the year Trudeau should have resigned, since he was too much of a coward to talk to them and had to use his dad's war measures act against them instead. If anything he's the one that acted more like a fascist.
Sorry but your "freedoms" come with responsibilities to not screw it up for everyone else.

It irks me every time someone in Canada claims their freedoms are being taken away because they were told to wear a mask or get a vaccine. I moved to Canada from a country experiencing a civil war at the time (20+ yrs ago)...until you've experienced that, NO your freedoms are not being taken away....stop being such pansies.
 

coldmeat

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Nothing about the freedom convoy had to do with nazism. They were simply asking for basic freedoms that should have never been taken away. Like being allowed to work without having to take an experimental drug, and for small business to be allowed to operate again, for moms to be able to go watch their kids play hockey, and other basic things. That is the year Trudeau should have resigned, since he was too much of a coward to talk to them and had to use his dad's war measures act against them instead. If anything he's the one that acted more like a fascist.

That was Ford and the Ontario conservatives btw.
 
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