Well, apparently we are losing some freedoms.

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SteveGrabowski

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They are the Gestapo. Actively armed, mobilized, and disappearing people TODAY. This is the middle of Nazi Germany we are living in. TODAY. And so far no one is pushing back.
No one wanted to believe it when I told them the US would be Germany 1933 the second Trump was sworn in. Just like no one believed me when I said he'd beat Harris and that Biden fucked us all over by not bowing out when we could have chosen a replacement in a primary. But do you all believe it now? The constitution will not save us. The courts will not save us.
 

ch33zw1z

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Not to be that guy but are we really taking Reddit posts serious enough for people to be sending “victims” money? Is there something from a verifiable source because this sounds like a scam.

Im not sure what you mean. I didnt see a request for money in the post, maybe down the comments area?

Boston area is being targeted rn
 

DZero

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No one wanted to believe it when I told them the US would be Germany 1933 the second Trump was sworn in. Just like no one believed me when I said he'd beat Harris and that Biden fucked us all over by not bowing out when we could have chosen a replacement in a primary. But do you all believe it now? The constitution will not save us. The courts will not save us.
The issue? is not Germany... is FREAKING YUGOSLAVIA!!
Why?
Germany at least was divided in 2 sections... Yugoslavia ended divided in more countries. US is going in that path
 

RalphTheCow

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No one wanted to believe it when I told them the US would be Germany 1933 the second Trump was sworn in. Just like no one believed me when I said he'd beat Harris and that Biden fucked us all over by not bowing out when we could have chosen a replacement in a primary. But do you all believe it now? The constitution will not save us. The courts will not save us.
I see a big problem with no clear favorite for Democrats. Just like that horrible 2016 primary.

I like both Mayor Pete and Gretchen, but gay or female just seems too dangerous. I think Newsom has too much California on him. I thought Kamala was a pretty good not-Trump, but sadly I was not in the majority.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Dec 15, 2015
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Hooded thugs now grabbing international students off the streets for the crime of criticizing Israel. This individual's lawyer is unable to contact her because nobody knows where they took her.


How about those freedoms, @Greenman? Still feeling good about them?
Someone's gonna get 2A'd if they keep that shit up. Nobody should be getting grabbed period, much less by unidentified persons.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Hooded thugs now grabbing international students off the streets for the crime of criticizing Israel. This individual's lawyer is unable to contact her because nobody knows where they took her.


How about those freedoms, @Greenman? Still feeling good about them?
CNN indicates she now has a lawyer, and shocker, is being held at a detention facility in Louisiana. Id wager a large sum it's the same site as Mahmoud Khalil. Same tactic - move the person to a friendly jurisdiction where it is difficult for them to obtain legal representation and support, and the courts are more friendly to the administration.

She has not been charged with any crime.

 
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fskimospy

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CNN indicates she now has a lawyer, and shocker, is being held at a detention facility in Louisiana. Id wager a large sum it's the same site as Mahmoud Khalil. Same tactic - move the person to a friendly jurisdiction where it is difficult for them to obtain legal representation and support, and the courts are more friendly to the administration.

She has not been charged with any crime.

Yes, they are very obviously trying to route all legal challenges through the 5th circuit as the 5th is notoriously utterly partisan and routinely issues insane rulings. Even though the 9th circuit handles about 50% more cases each year the 5th has had the same number taken up by SCOTUS recently and had more overturned.

So basically Trump is depending on them to either rule outright for him or rule in some insane way that requires additional appeals and therefore more time.
 
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Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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Cooperation, comradery, kinship. Pillars of creating a better world. To not simply regard one another as pieces of meat, used and discarded.

To live in peace and dignity. To enrich ourselves in free trade. Human rights stolen from us by acts of evil. By small minds who would rather see the world as something to be divided and conquered, where humans live in fear and terror with a cast system where the one party rules with an iron fist over slaves.

America's darkened heart, full of vile and corruption, has stolen the American dream from us. A loss I would see avenged.

Canada’s ‘old relationship’ with U.S. ‘is over’

“The old relationship we had with the United States, based on deepening integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperation, is over.”
 

APU_Fusion

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Cooperation, comradery, kinship. Pillars of creating a better world. To not simply regard one another as pieces of meat, used and discarded.

To live in peace and dignity. To enrich ourselves in free trade. Human rights stolen from us by acts of evil. By small minds who would rather see the world as something to be divided and conquered, where humans live in fear and terror with a cast system where the one party rules with an iron fist over slaves.

America's darkened heart, full of vile and corruption, has stolen the American dream from us. A loss I would see avenged.

Canada’s ‘old relationship’ with U.S. ‘is over’

“The old relationship we had with the United States, based on deepening integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperation, is over.”
It is a sad thing to watch as an American. The avarice of Tru p and Magats are breathtaking
 

Sonikku

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Jun 23, 2005
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Conservatives have moved the goal posts from censorship is bad to legal residents aren't entitled to free speech. "But they aren't deporting citizens" they saying currently. But just watch when Trump labels his political rivals or liberal citizens as terrorists and starts disappearing them. Conservatives will just move the goal posts again. I see the whataboutism defense in use already over Trump getting banned from privately owned social media platforms, as though it's the same thing.
 

bononos

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Can all this set a precedence for a left wing revolutionary govt to use federal agents to grab far-right groups and their groupies and stuff them into no-sunlight FEMA camps in California.
 

nOOky

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I head to vote here in Wisconsin this morning. I just have a feeling the conservatives will be out in force, and the WI supreme court will gain a new conservative member and our abortion laws go back to the 1800's as well as our voting rights. I just am not seeing any impetus from the independent youth to haul their asses in to vote. And since they let Elon spend millions here illegally it's all but over anyway. I wish I was wrong, but I have a feeling.
 

DZero

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Conservatives have moved the goal posts from censorship is bad to legal residents aren't entitled to free speech. "But they aren't deporting citizens" they saying currently. But just watch when Trump labels his political rivals or liberal citizens as terrorists and starts disappearing them. Conservatives will just move the goal posts again. I see the whataboutism defense in use already over Trump getting banned from privately owned social media platforms, as though it's the same thing.
This is turning worse than China... next is the open regime change and a coup
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Oh boy, this is turning bad, since is affecting the legal people. And is ruining the universities.
Lest any be forgotten:
 

fskimospy

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Oh boy, this is turning bad, since is affecting the legal people. And is ruining the universities.
This directly undermines one of the US' key global economic advantages. It is extremely common for people to come to the US to go to college and then stay here afterwards. The US stealing the best and brightest from other countries is such a big issue that lots of them have requirements for their sponsored students to return home afterwards.

If you're an international student now would you go to the US? I wouldn't - seems like an alarmingly high chance of either randomly losing your visa halfway through or potentially actually being swept up and imprisoned/deported to a gulag.
 

K1052

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This directly undermines one of the US' key global economic advantages. It is extremely common for people to come to the US to go to college and then stay here afterwards. The US stealing the best and brightest from other countries is such a big issue that lots of them have requirements for their sponsored students to return home afterwards.

If you're an international student now would you go to the US? I wouldn't - seems like an alarmingly high chance of either randomly losing your visa halfway through or potentially actually being swept up and imprisoned/deported to a gulag.

This is the intent. The admin wants to empty the schools of international students in favor of (the right) American students.
 
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brycejones

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This directly undermines one of the US' key global economic advantages. It is extremely common for people to come to the US to go to college and then stay here afterwards. The US stealing the best and brightest from other countries is such a big issue that lots of them have requirements for their sponsored students to return home afterwards.

If you're an international student now would you go to the US? I wouldn't - seems like an alarmingly high chance of either randomly losing your visa halfway through or potentially actually being swept up and imprisoned/deported to a gulag.
It's depressing watching Trump speed run destroying all the levers that actually enabled the US to be so successful on the world stage.
 
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