The best part is HP doesn't want the geepee to buy them, they exist for enterprise and all the various money sinks attached to enterprise hardware fleets means bulk fleet unit pricing is way lower than the pricing we get.
The best part is HP doesn't want the geepee to buy them, they exist for enterprise and all the various money sinks attached to enterprise hardware fleets means bulk fleet unit pricing is way lower than the pricing we get.Yeah, very nice, especially the 128GB version for almost $4000.
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Yeah that's standard Zbook stuff.Yeah, very nice, especially the 128GB version for almost $4000.
Strix Point laptops are priced appropriately?but I don't have high hopes after seeing Strix Point models available.
Yeah, overpriced corporate stuff.Yeah that's standard Zbook stuff.
I didn't exactly mean price, more like the number of available models, but price is also high, It starts at 1 749 €, but this one is with AI 9 HX 370 + RTX 4060, the rest are business and most of them are from Asus.Strix Point laptops are priced appropriately?
Premium part starts at premium money? nooooooooooo waaaaaay.I didn't exactly mean price, more like the number of available models, but price is also high, It starts at 1 749 €, but this one is with AI 9 HX 370 + RTX 4060, the rest are business and most of them are from Asus.
Kinda cool tho.Yeah, overpriced corporate stuff.
That Asus TUF for $1749 is not exactly a premium(bussiness) part. I don't care If there are overpriced business or gaming laptops, but the problem is that we don't have cheaper options.Premium part starts at premium money? nooooooooooo waaaaaay.
For that price It should be.Kinda cool tho.
Premium doesn't mean commercial lmao.That Asus TUF for $1749 is not exactly a premium(bussiness) part
Cheaper is KRK.but the problem is that we don't have cheaper options.
Why do you insist on interfering with our daydreams? This is Anandtech Forums. No one here (other than for their grandma) wants KRK.Cheaper is KRK.
What's TO?they can do an RMB and TO two different SOC tiles tho.
If you were talking about the Strix Point being premium APU, then ok, that's true.Premium doesn't mean commercial lmao.
Yeah, It is cheaper, but in that price range are both Lunar Lake and Phoenix, so not very appealing top be honest.Cheaper is KRK.
Oh, thought it was LPDDR4/DDR4 AFR (alternative for Rembrandt).tape out
that's not gonna work layout-wise.KRK would have had 2xP cores, 6xE cores
lmao no KRK has more CPU perf and the same gfx perf as hpt1.Honestly, as long as HWK is on the market, there's almost zero point to ever buy a KRK part.
wow a tiny irrelevant market when the KRK target is explicitly commercial laptop.It would have made a better portable game console chip with ST and GPU performance improvements over the Z1 extreme.
How can Krackan 512SPs match Phoenix 768SPs when the GPU uarch is basically the same and frequency is not that much higher? Krackan has also less ROPs - half (16 vs 32), doesn't it?that's not gonna work layout-wise.
lmao no KRK has more CPU perf and the same gfx perf as hpt1.
wow a tiny irrelevant market when the KRK target is explicitly commercial laptop.
Which it, well, won. Kind of.
Turns out real workload frequency between RDNA3 and 3.5 differs by quite a lot.How can Krackan 512SPs match Phoenix 768SPs when the GPU uarch is basically the same and frequency is not that much higher?
who cares weenie iGPs are never fillrate limited to any relevant degree.Krackan has also less ROPs - half (16 vs 32)
- I've seen Phoenix iGPU's real clocks drop as low as somewhere around 1-1.2 GHz under very heavy load + lower TDPs.How can Krackan 512SPs match Phoenix 768SPs when the GPU uarch is basically the same and frequency is not that much higher? Krackan has also less ROPs - half (16 vs 32), doesn't it?
a) it's not formerpolished towards more efficiency with feedback from Samsung from their former Exynos collab.
wow a tiny irrelevant market when the KRK target is explicitly commercial laptop.
Which it, well, won. Kind of.
See? You get it. Congrats.It has the CoPilot+ and Dell is telling its customers that's what they should be buying.
- with the current floorplan, definitely, but that could have been a floorplan design decision. It's not a show stopper.that's not gonna work layout-wise.
- the 890m is barely faster in real game benchmarks than the 780m in HWK. Synthetics show a better speedup, but it's never more than 25-30%. Chopping half of that off and clocking it 20-30% higher than HWK isn't going to magically make it faster.lmao no KRK has more CPU perf and the same gfx perf as hpt1.
- it's a growing market, and given AMD's historically low mobile APU volume numbers, every little bit helps. It was a design time decision that doesn't even make sense on paper.wow a tiny irrelevant market when the KRK target is explicitly commercial laptop.
Which it, well, won. Kind of.
yeah it does.Chopping half of that off and clocking it 20-30% higher than HWK isn't going to magically make it faster.
bro please KRK won commercial. Stop coping, it's embarassing.it's a growing market, and given AMD's historically low mobile APU volume numbers, every little bit helps.
just flat out embarassing poasting.Just taking HWK and simply doing what needed to be done to take that RTL to N3P would have better you a better product than KRK all around and would have even rivaled SPT in many areas
you need to benchmark more then.I feel fairly strongly that the publicly available benchmarks for Strix Point and Hawk Point support my position. Strix Point is not much faster than Hawk Point when using the iGPU. You are proposing that Kraken Point, built on the same node, with the same logical blocks, with it's 8CUs will be as fast as or faster than Hawk Point's 12CU RDNA3 implementation when the Ryzen AI 9 365, with it's 12 CUs, is neck and neck with Hawk Point in many cases.
it's both.Face it, Kraken point is an exercise in cost optimization and not value
why the hell would you put old old IP on a shiny new very expensive node. Are you insane?The gains from N3P would have the Zen4 core doing high enough clocks to keep pace with mobile Zen5 at the released clocks
It is a very tangible improvement over HPT1 in many ways.but, it's not going to be much of an improvement over HWK.