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DAPUNISHER

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Big Russian channel goes after Aussie Steve over his B580 testing. Claiming the CPU overhead is fake news. They produced what is one of the worst trolls in the tech tubers space. This one is worth the watch even if you don't usually do so. Steve explains that he does not want the drama, but because of the size of the channel calling him out he feels the need to defend his work.

The tldw is that not a single test conducted by that channel was CPU heavy. But they had their minions raid HUB's channel while they called Steve out to prove his claims. As Steve points out near the start of the video, those of us that have been using ARC for a couple of years documented the CPU overhead long before Hardware Canucks did that video about it.

 
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igor_kavinski

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DAPUNISHER said:
Big Russian channel goes after Aussie Steve over his B580 testing.
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Do Russki sales even matter? They could've been ignored easily. Now they can come up with some other absurd allegation. It's more like they are trying to get free publicity (any publicity is good publicity for a loser).
 

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DAPUNISHER said:
[...] Surprisingly, with recent drivers my 3050 6GB is having unexpected problems. In Arkham City frame pacing is an issue even with PhysX turned off. I need to see if old drivers will smooth things out. In Spiderman MM it crashes if I try to use FSRFG with it. My B580 works fine with it, so it is an Nvidia problem.

Confirmed. Nvidia drivers past 566 are optimized for the 5xxx series and will bork previous generations.

Am I seeing Green when I should see Red? This time, it's NVIDIA's drivers plaguing GPUs.

It's not just you. NVIDIA's Game Ready drivers are causing problems for countless users. Here's what you can do about it until NVIDIA offers an official fix.
www.windowscentral.com
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You know in one of my crazy movie ideas, a virus attacks the masses that forces them to blurt out the truth of anything and everything. In that world, all the people working on pre-release hardware would spill their secrets. With those enforcing the NDA themselves admitting that the NDA is just a tool to keep them unjustly competitive, it would suddenly disappear from the minds of corporate overlords and we will begin seeing the birth of ideas and their evolution into products, step by step, via daily updates from the companies themselves. With nothing to leak, leakers will have no choice but to make up stuff but then also admit that they made that stuff up. They would still have a place in a world that isn't satisfied with truth. In fact, their lies could force the companies to push themselves harder by saying to themselves, hey, that fake leak sounds like a great idea! So yeah, maybe I want COVID to mutate into the truth virus. It's the virus we need to get the life we want.
 

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DigDog said:
B770 cancelled?

Intel Xe2 Battlemage GPUs on the chopping block as Nvidia high-end slated to remain unchallenged

Despite repeatedly appearing in leaks, it looks as though the Intel Xe2 Battlemage B770 GPU may have been cancelled. This leaves Nvidia entirely unchallenged in the high-end desktop GPU market unless AMD releases a higher-end RDNA 4 GPU soon.
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Aussie Steve speculates the CPU overhead may be the key issue for Intel not releasing a higher end model. If Intel doubled the compute, he says the CPU demands would be extremely high in order to push the card fully.
 
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I think an NDA is more like an admission that they don't have enough confidence in the talent they have hired

Supermicro wanted me to sign an NDA for accessing their Ice Lake server for evaluation. My boss said no way. About a month later, they decided to give me access anyway. I stupidly didn't think much of it and accessed it on the last two days. It was easily a $20,000 server. Or more! I had fun benchmarking it.
 
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i had to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement when i got hired by Xerox to be a foot soldier in their Google help centre.

The concept of the NDA is that you're not allowed to talk about what you know of your work, and it can be used for either keeping secret something that is good and you don't want the competition to catch up on it, or to hide the fact that you can deliver your services while being completely shit, which is ALSO a secret you dont want the competitors to know, because otherwise they too will start hiring subhumans to do the work.

So all in all a NDA is there to cover everything in between these two. You really do not want the competition to know how you get around delivering your business so they cannot act on it, which could be undercutting you, or providing a better service, or finding out some brilliant ideas you have had that are in high demand in the market.

oh and Google's NDAs are "in perpetuity", so i am not at liberty to discuss how horrendous they were as a client.
 
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Are the Battlemage drivers getting better? Are they releasing new drivers weekly?
 

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igor_kavinski said:
Was that before or after Sundar became CEO? I've heard things have taken a serious dive there under him.
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Just before - 2014 or thereof. It's a funny story.

I was working with IBM in their Greenock ops center. I took calls from people who had IBM servers, Bladecenter and such, they would say "i have a broken HDD" and i would check their contract, and then send out a new HDD. Sometimes i would do the same but the service request was for software (why on earth would you want to use IBM software is beyond me), all i did was check the contract, and press a button, and a tech support guy would get the message that they needed to call the client to fix stuff.
Sometimes the contract was expired, i would press another button and the sales guy would call the client to renew the contract.

When i got there IBM was already dismantling the site. In 2014 they were shutting down operations and i was let go.

Now, there were other big brands that moved into services because they had this pile of money and no way to make it work. One of them was Hewlett Packard. HP, you know, the guys who make printers.
Another was Xerox .. also the guys who make printers.

I started sending CVs and got a couple of interviews. By this time i had worked at IBM for 2 years straight, nighshifts, and i was burned out. Not in a great state of mind.

Anyway, i do the interviews, and i explain, yeah well i have been working on server support, B2B, and i would like to continue doing the same. Because they too have this type of service.

I get another interview with 3 guys on the Skype call (20 years ago ok?) and it's a very serious interview, and it goes well, they are happy, and one guy says:

"it's just a formality, but i need to ask you a mandatory question, ok? let's say a caller has a photo they want to set as background on their Android, what advice would you give them?"

i thought .. oh this must be one of those "why do horses have 4 legs" questions, designed to throw you off.

"well, you tell them to find the cog button for Settings, or drag down from the top on the screen with your finger, find the cog, go to Appearance, and select Wallpaper; from there you will be guided to pick the photo, which is normally in your DCIM folder. Or they can navigate to where the image is, long-press, and then on the options select "set as wallpaper".

They were enthusiastic, and the next day i got a job offer. Not in Scotland, but i had no problem to move.






Ok so.
It turns out that this wasn't Hewlett Packard, and it wasn't a job supporting servers, and it wasn't Business To Business. I got confused between HP and Xerox, and i had sent so many CVs i didnt realize i was applying for a different job.

Xerox had this massive centre in Poole, where they hired cheap labour for Google's Android support - low level stuff, like helping old people upload their photos to the cloud and stuff like that.

I didn't realize this until i was already in Poole, had already rented a house, and i started my training.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
What happened next??? You know you can't stop there Maybe make a new thread about it and link it here.
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i got fired during training.

I was into my second week of training and were about to do my first live call. I had done thousands of live calls before, i wasn't unexperienced.

Now, Google used ChromeOS as a base, and then their CRM was a form of hyperlinked pages. So you open the CRM, there is a offline webpage that says "is the caller the owner of the Android" and you click hyperlink 1 if yes, hyperlink 2 if no.
Yes it was absolutely horrendous.

This lady says, she had a problem with her phone the week before, and had called in. Shit CMR so no way to track previous services. The other agent had to do a full-reset on the phone, but first got her to upload the photos to the cloud so she wouldn't lose them, some other Google-owned, branded cloud storage - one of those "access with Google account" type of services.
She did the phone reset but afterwards she could no longer access the online service. It said "password not recognized".
It did offer a password reset process, so i said, it seems like you need to reset your password. Then you should be able to just click "access with Google".

I typed into the CRM search "password reset" and got 2 blue hyperlinks.
Hyperlink 1 takes me to a page that says "tell the caller we do not do password resets".

Now .. the photos in question were photos of her dead son.

This was the first day live on the floor so there were trainers. Some other Italian guy was supposed to be my trainer and "raise your hand and i will come check it out" but he was too busy hitting on a hot chick half his age, as we Italians do. And i raised my hand as much as a hand can be raised, the guy completely ignored it.

So i tried hyperlink 2. Now, there is nothing on the CRM that says "DO NOT USE THE SECOND HYPERLINK". We are told that they are structured in a way that the first hyperlink is always the one that provides the best and/or most common solution, and that the further down you go, the less ideal the situation is. But, never "do not use them".

Hyperlink 2 says "instructions to do a password reset". Ok, that should be what i need here.

I start by "ask the caller their Username".

"ask the caller to verify X Y and Z". ok.

"ask the caller for their previous password" .

Uh .. we're not supposed to ask for passwords. They DID tell us "do not ask for passwords". But ... this is a Google internal CRM?? Why would it be telling me to ask for this if i am not supposed to?
"can i have your previous password".



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The next day i sit in front of my computer, my "trainer" and 2 guys come and pull me off the floor, take my badge, ask me to turn on my phone, i get a call from the hiring company that i am being dismissed. Escorted to the gate and thrown out.

I got paid for the month tho.
 
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Wow. What a bunch of losers! It's like navigating a landmine and you must NOT use your brain or else you die.
 

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Wow. What a bunch of losers! It's like navigating a landmine and you must NOT use your brain or else you die.
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one of my friends actually remained there as a SME for 2 years, and he told me it was horrible. Of the 36 that they had hired from my group, only 4 remained after 6 months. Only 2 remained after 1 year, and only him remained for 2 years.

After a call was completed, you would tell the caller "there is a brief questionnaire after the call".

Now, NOBODY completes those. First off, it's an annoying prerecorded message with a disclaimer, that even if you decided you wanted to complete it, you'd get bored after listening to the message.
Second, people who have gotten what they called for, they have no need to stick around. And people who are angry because they did not, THEY will stick around to give you the worst rating they can, regardless if it was your fault or not.

And that questionnaire was the ONLY METRIC THAT THEY USED to determine your efficiency.

Also the SLA agreements that Google set to Xerox as a client were so insane, that Xerox could never meet them, and as a survival strategy they would report "this month we fired X number of underperforming agents" to keep Google happy that "they were doing something to increase the Quality level of the service".

Ofc this was a minimum wage job and they hired mostly young kids.

They hired you to fire you.
 
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well since i've hijacked the thread ..

Working at IBM, you'd think this billion-dollar multinational, tech giant, that built Deep Blue the computer that beat a world champion at chess, who makes the top-tier servers and supercomputers for the whole world, that THEY of all people would have the best computer systems internally.

This is where i learned the concept of "legacy systems".

One of the many different CRMs we had .. because each product had its own CRM .. had 1 basic and everyday use function on F5, another daily-used basic function (i.e. scroll page) on F8, and if you pressed F6 by mistake THE WHOLE CRM WOULD CRASH and you would need to reboot it.



Working at Stellar Europe, one if not the most shit job i have ever had, even considering i was a street-sweeper for a year, we had a autodialler that would cold-call numbers and we would try to sell British Telecom products (the worst internet provider of the UK), and this autodialler broke every Ofcom rule in existence, calling the same number multiple times a day, to the point that we had people crying on the other side of the phone, or shouting at us, or even saying "i hope you die" with the most evil voice i have ever heard a human do.
The managers had a "time to lean time to clean" attitude - i even heard one guy shouting "you got time to stretch?" to a girl who had just got up from her chair .. while still on call.



Working at Barclays no particular horror stories on the systems, but i did work with people so stupid i couldn't understand how they could walk and breathe at the same time.
I had a SME that could do nothing but repeat the printed rules. Say rule n. 41 says "if this case, then do this, but if this other case, then do this other thing".
You go and you say, "hey, there's an unusual situation where this person is neither group A nor group B, how do we approach it". And he would say "if this case, then do this, but if this other case, then do this other thing".
And i'm like "yes ok, i have read the rule too, it's right here on my computer i'm literally looking at it right now and you are over my shoulder looking at me looking at it, but we have a situation where due to unusual circumstances neither of these two groups works for this situation" and he would go "if this case, then do this, but if this other case, then do this other thing".
It's weird because i also met another guy who must have topped 145 IQ, he was an absolute genius, but i was surrounded by morons. The guy who was put in charge of implementing the GDPR regulations did not understand a single word of the GDPR regulation. Not a single word.



Working at CYBG was sweet. Everyone was smart, everything worked fine.



Working at AXA was pretty decent. Systems were ok, people in my team were good, it all kinda fell apart when the 2 managers left.
 
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Cool that they basically provided white glove service. Also solid work giving him a good chair instead of crappy gaming chair. I liked the look of the old build better, but I am prejudiced since I named my white NR200 builds I did a couple years ago the Stormtroopers, and went with the white and black look myself. Always joke they reflect my accuracy in shooters.
 
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My favorite part of the video was the build process. Dang, how did they make it look so frickin' effortless??? I always struggle like hell when trying to build and I do a really bad job of it

And I'm too embarrassed to admit that if she showed up at my doorstep, they would've had to call an ambulance!

"Man down! Man down! We don't know what actually happened!"
 
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