I asked Kocicak (alias BoggledBeagle on techpowerup forum) for additional tests (Geekbench / Cinebench). Let's be surprised if Skymont's "Pentium M moment" is confirmed.
CPU-Z is very simple codebase (not as bad as Coremark or Dhrystone, but too "nice and easy" to be used for benchmarking). It's possible it is overstimating the IPC of some cores compared to what performance they could extract with their out of order core running more typical messy code that needs good branch prediction, prefetching and overall real-world performance to not fall apart. (Skymont has decent branch prediction perhaps better than Lion Cove, but I wonder if CPU-Z could overstate its ability to use all its execution units a bit too much.)
Using single-thread geekbench for these comparisons may actually be better idea, despite all the issues the software has (like variance, MT score being worse then useless since it is outright misleading).
Skymont doesn't have as many execution units as people think. Most of the units and ports are much less powerful than the ones in Lion Cove for example. Rather than having 3 complex units, they split some functions out so you have 3 complex + 2 simple. That's how it has 26 execution ports.(Skymont has decent branch prediction perhaps better than Lion Cove, but I wonder if CPU-Z could overstate its ability to use all its execution units a bit too much.)
Can't see the battery life being good on those unless they have a downclocked mobile version.Makes me think if those laptops can be sold overseas since they don't have licensing issues.
Chinese x86 eight-core Zhaoxin KX-7000 CPU lags behind AMD and Intel
More power hungry too.www.tomshardware.com
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That's rough, looks almost a full decade behind what is currently made by Intel/AMD.
Possibly a lot of Chinese legacy x86 software. Maybe they figured it's easier to just build an x86 CPU to avoid having to rewrite all that software.
Makes me think if those laptops can be sold overseas since they don't have licensing issues.
Yeah it’s completely obsolete even by zen2 and maybe zen+ standards. If they ever want to sell this out of China they need to price a laptop below 200$. They could probably get some sales in the African and southeast Asian regions where disposable income isn’t as high as other regions. Even then it would be a tough sell as Intel and AMD laptop designs of 5+ years old are sold second or third hand for cheap.completely unviable economically, at $600 you can find a zen 4 laptop with x100-fold performance and battery life
even if they price them at $300 they're not worth it
Thank you for this. What a fascinating table! It seems the Chinese have reached Bulldozer-level processing power. What's the wattage consumption? In a couple of years they're likely to reach full Zen parity!Hi, everyone.
I just bought the boards with the KX-U6780A and KX-7000 to my collection a weird PC components.
There is very limited information about these CPUs in Internet so I deceided to share my first impressions and some benchmarks.
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All cpus have Turbo off. Clock for clock. Cinebench R15 do not work on Zhaoxin Cpus.
Thank you for this. What a fascinating table! It seems the Chinese have reached Bulldozer-level processing power. What's the wattage consumption? In a couple of years they're likely to reach full Zen parity!
If Apple could design their ARM chips for x86 emulation, why can't a Chinese company?Possibly a lot of Chinese legacy x86 software. Maybe they figured it's easier to just build an x86 CPU to avoid having to rewrite all that software.
Maybe they haven't been able to achieve emulation speeds as good as Apple. If anyone could do what Apple does, they wouldn't be sitting on billions of dollars of cash. If some team or company could create a crazy good ARM CPU with excellent x86 emulation, Intel/AMD would be left begging people not to switch.If Apple could design their ARM chips for x86 emulation, why can't a Chinese company?
~120W Full load, ~85W Average load, ASUS idle ~40W.What's the wattage consumption?
~120W Full load, ~85W Average load, ASUS idle ~40W.
Zhaoxin's market has also been deleted. As the government/business environment is expected to go RISC-V. By some not publicized policy guidance around March 4th, 2025.
Actually, there are legacy x86 programs that RISC-V won't emulate in the current time. Yeah, that's their destiny.~120W Full load, ~85W Average load, ASUS idle ~40W.
Zhaoxin's market has also been deleted. As the government/business environment is expected to go RISC-V. By some not publicized policy guidance around March 4th, 2025.