Just so people know, I’m being fully serious. There is no other laptop in windows world that comes close
Just so people know, I’m being fully serious. There is no other laptop in windows world that comes closeThat’s not a bad price. If you know the prosumer laptop space. Quite cheap
Yeah it's a super-highend Zbook, prices are where you'd expect them.Just so people know, I’m being fully serious. There is no other laptop in windows world that comes close
They are.I wonder if drivers are ISV certified (Solidworks, Autodesk etc.)?
it's literally not made for that. It's a ~60-80W part. You can't do that in a handheld.There is absolutely zero TECHNICAL issues in putting the Strix Halo into a typical gaming handheld
It is PURELY a cost issue
Unused watts are wasted watts and this one uses them really well up to 80-ish W.In fairness, it will run using a lot less than ~60W
But those "crappy" 5090 laptops are meant for gaming and they will annihilate Strix Halo easily in that regard and Halo also has a big disadvantage in using RDNA3 instead of RDNA4, which would be much more preferable for gaming.Still cheaper than a lot of crappy 5090 laptops that won't be able to handle tasks requiring more than 24GB VRAM.
HP from what I remember was always very conservative with power limits (especially with 1T workloads for some weird reason) and since this is a business line they want to play it safe anyway, I would guess.BTW, I expected this HP to have higher power limits than Asus, but It's actually the opposite.
There is no problem even with 25-30W, I wouldn't mind even more If It can be cooled effectively, but this can be used only when plugged in or docked. Only the "handheld" mode is a problem because of short battery life even with big batteries.The PC handhelds users are very elitist.
Halo is not for handhelds and frankly no AMD APU is currently, not until that Sony 3nm SoC comes out that is. 10-15 watts is the sweet spot.
The PC handheld market is TINY. AMD is better off allocating to other better users that will make use of Halo.
As Cary Golomb says the main driver for a handheld is 4 channel memory & 256bit busThere is no problem even with 25-30W, I wouldn't mind even more If It can be cooled effectively, but this can be used only when plugged in or docked. Only the "handheld" mode is a problem because of short battery life even with big batteries.
Actually, Strix Halo would really provide the best performance for handhelds, but too much performance would be lost by limiting It to 15-25W, so not worth the effort and cost.
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But If AMD made a monolith 8C16T + 16-20CU RDNA4 APU + 16MB IC(SLC), that one could be pretty interesting even with limited power.
It's not a goddamn handheld product just full on stop.As Cary Golomb says the main driver for a handheld is 4 channel memory & 256bit bus
If you have those two then you can game 2d games at 7w & 720p at 15w & 1080p at 25w & docked at 40w. All this on a 80 watt battery like the rog ally x
Only issue is this is a premium product (like kaby lake G). AMD is not producing a cut down version tailored for handhelds. That is why they are marketing more towards AI
256-bit is 8 channel memory, because the width is 32-bit max per chip with LPDDR5(X).As Cary Golomb says the main driver for a handheld is 4 channel memory & 256bit bus
If you have those two then you can game 2d games at 7w & 720p at 15w & 1080p at 25w & docked at 40w. All this on a 80 watt battery like the rog ally x
Only issue is this is a premium product (like kaby lake G). AMD is not producing a cut down version tailored for handhelds. That is why they are marketing more towards AI
No one says Strix Halo is a handheld product. So chill.It's not a goddamn handheld product just full on stop.
256b parts do NOT belong in any handhelds.
Exactly, they should try 512bit instead; would surely be a powerhouse (except it won't be a handheld anymore but who cares and plus it ain't happening)256b parts do NOT belong in any handhelds.
Adroc will now need to go outside and break some stuffExactly, they should try 512bit instead;
What do you mean it won't be a handheld?Exactly, they should try 512bit instead; would surely be a powerhouse (except it won't be a handheld anymore but who cares and plus it ain't happening)
He wants Microsoft/valve to order a custom apu/soc from AMD modelled on strix haloI love my deck and legion go but like come on, nobody is going to pay the extra BOM for like 5-10 fps. Putting all that potential into a device just to limit it to like 1/3 it’s tdp and potential is so dumb. I don’t know why phawx is so obsessed with this idea, it just seems like it’s for the sake of making content.
Why focus on dis-aggregation? If it's for a handheld it'll have a lower TDP meaning it would best be equipped with fewer CPU cores, fewer WGPs and smaller memory bus meaning it could easily be monolithic again. Then what would it have in common with Strix Halo?He wants Microsoft/valve to order a custom apu/soc from AMD modelled on strix halo
Definitely not a smaller memory bussmaller memory bus