Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Trump is always upset. He was upset with what? He watched the interview and reacted to it? How?
 

DZero

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Poles and Czechs want to ban Russian diplomats within the Schengen zone. Yes, please do. This has been needed since at least 2008. Russian assassinations, sabotage, arson and destabilization efforts cannot be ignored or dismissed.

Making life harder for the GRU and others is in Europe's best interest. Do it.
Slovaks will be angry if their daddy Russia gets banned.

At the end the other sad future is seeing Slovaks and Czechs figthing each other.
 

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Poles and Czechs want to ban Russian diplomats within the Schengen zone. Yes, please do. This has been needed since at least 2008. Russian assassinations, sabotage, arson and destabilization efforts cannot be ignored or dismissed.

Making life harder for the GRU and others is in Europe's best interest. Do it.

I don't understand how this is even up for debate. Should be an absolute no-brainer.
 

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To the surprise of no one. Trump's ceasefire remains fake and entirely focused on forcing Ukraine to surrender to Russia.
When Russia violates any notion of drawdown, crickets. If Ukraine wants to keep defending itself, action is taken against it.
The message is crystal clear. The United States is working with Russia.

I believe the value of continued pretense and pretend, is for their diplomatic and bribery efforts to keep corrupting and turning more European Democracies. For the USA, pretending to be neutral has its advantages in the arena of sabotaging NATO and Europe from within. For Russia's maximum goals, the United States will be doing as much damage for as long as we can from within. It is a slow burn meant to be subtle and provide hope to those foolish enough to shrink from the horrible reality.

From the US point of view, Russia is free to bombard Ukraine. Ukraine is not free to bombard Russia.
It is treason then.

Trump says he won't impose additional sanctions on russia for Sumy strike

 
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Except that Russia and US alliance will destroy the world we already know.
I wasn't suggesting that his kissing up to Putin isn't disgusting and a horrible problem for America. The lie I was referencing (because it was the subject I was responding to) was Trump's assertion that Ukraine is responsible for instigating its conflict with Russia. In a list of Trump's worst lies (there are 10s of thousands to choose from) this would rank at or near the top.
 

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Unbelievable what Trump is doing to national security via DOGE. These traitors are hacking our systems with persistent monitoring, xfering sensitive and private data, and opening things up to IPs in Russia.

Putin will use this to bolster his failing genocide in Ukraine and hamper American diplomats and foreign policy wherever possible. DOGE incels need to start having accidents.




"We've seen Russian threat actors do things like this on U.S. government systems," said one threat intelligence researcher who requested anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly by their employer. That analyst, who has extensive experience hunting nation-state-sponsored hackers, reviewed the whistleblower's technical claims.


"The difference is, they were given the keys to the front door," the researcher continued. While the researcher clarified that it would be difficult to fully verify what happened without full access to the NLRB system, they said Berulis' conclusions and accompanying evidence were a cause for concern. "None of this is standard," they said.


Russ Handorf, who served in the FBI for a decade in various cybersecurity roles, also reviewed Berulis' extensive technical forensic records and analysis and spoke to NPR about his conclusions.


"All of this is alarming," he said. "If this was a publicly traded company, I would have to report this [breach] to the Securities and Exchange Commission. The timeline of events demonstrates a lack of respect for the institution and for the sensitivity of the data that was exfiltrated. There is no reason to increase the security risk profile by disabling security controls and exposing them, less guarded, to the internet. They didn't exercise the more prudent standard practice of copying the data to encrypted and local media for escort."
 

kage69

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Slovaks will be angry if their daddy Russia gets banned.

At the end the other sad future is seeing Slovaks and Czechs figthing each other.

Seems Russians are trying to get around this effort, and others, by adopting Serbian passports.
 

kage69

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Except that Russia and US alliance will destroy the world we already know.



Awww, look at that. Your post pulled someone away from his Amish oil change fundraiser for Putin to chuckle about world destruction.

Probably still giddy about Putin eliminating Ukrainian children from a playground in the middle of the day. Take that damn khokols.


Orcs have at least one more offensive left in them cyka, you gonna be all you can be or what? When do you stand up for the war crimes and violence you support, when do you pitch in? There's a Yuri somewhere who can't wait to have you in his trench, I just know it. It'll be a big day for all of us. You need help with that plane ticket to Russia? Let us know, that gofundme offer stands tough guy.
 
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DZero

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Awww, look at that. Your post pulled someone away from his Amish oil change fundraiser for Putin to chuckle about world destruction.

Probably still giddy about Putin eliminating Ukrainian children from a playground in the middle of the day. Take that damn khokols.


Orcs have at least one more offensive left in them cyka, you gonna to be all you can be or what? When do you stand up for the war crimes and violence you support, when do you pitch in? There's a Yuri somewhere who can't wait to have you in his trench, I just know it. It'll be a big day for all of us. You need help with that plane ticket to Russia? Let us know, that gofundme offer stands tough guy.
If US and Russia alliance happens, most of the world would be against them, specially China, Europe and most of South America (except Argentina)
 

hal2kilo

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Unbelievable what Trump is doing to national security via DOGE. These traitors are hacking our systems with persistent monitoring, xfering sensitive and private data, and opening things up to IPs in Russia.

Putin will use this to bolster his failing genocide in Ukraine and hamper American diplomats and foreign policy wherever possible. DOGE incels need to start having accidents.




"We've seen Russian threat actors do things like this on U.S. government systems," said one threat intelligence researcher who requested anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly by their employer. That analyst, who has extensive experience hunting nation-state-sponsored hackers, reviewed the whistleblower's technical claims.


"The difference is, they were given the keys to the front door," the researcher continued. While the researcher clarified that it would be difficult to fully verify what happened without full access to the NLRB system, they said Berulis' conclusions and accompanying evidence were a cause for concern. "None of this is standard," they said.


Russ Handorf, who served in the FBI for a decade in various cybersecurity roles, also reviewed Berulis' extensive technical forensic records and analysis and spoke to NPR about his conclusions.


"All of this is alarming," he said. "If this was a publicly traded company, I would have to report this [breach] to the Securities and Exchange Commission. The timeline of events demonstrates a lack of respect for the institution and for the sensitivity of the data that was exfiltrated. There is no reason to increase the security risk profile by disabling security controls and exposing them, less guarded, to the internet. They didn't exercise the more prudent standard practice of copying the data to encrypted and local media for escort."
DOGE has been sending hacked data to Russia by the way.
 

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Seems that Trump wants the alliance with Russia at any cost.
There's no such thing as an alliance with Russia without China. Russia is China's resource extraction reservation. Russian foreign policy can be "independent" only so far as it doesn't hurt China's access to Russia's resources.

If somehow the leadership of Russia wanted an alliance with Retardo's America (they don't) it would only be in-name-only and entirely fictitious. All they want is every card the Retard will give them and he's given plenty for nothing.
 

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Putin’s secret good army at work again.

 
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One was violated with a Kalashnikov, another raped repeatedly after seeing her husband shot. Now,...​


Andy Jehring, Olha Cherenkova

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Halyna was at home alone when the Russians came knocking, saying they were ‘looking for Nazis’. The 62-year-old widow was ordered at gunpoint to run around naked in the winter snow before being sexually violated with a Kalashnikov in the most grotesque manner.
In another case, Olha Cherniak, 49, was forced to listen to her teenage son’s torture from a neighbouring prison cell as Russian soldiers threatened to rape him.
Tetiana, 61, saw her husband get shot in front of her before she was pinned to the ground and raped. She escaped, was caught, and raped again.

A Russian soldier knocked on the door of 77-year-old teacher Liudmyla Mefodiivna and bashed her teeth out with the butt of his rifle, before assaulting her. These are just a few of the 376 testimonies of sexual violence committed by Russian soldiers against Ukrainians – including children – since 2022.
Not included is the account of Oleksandr Gudilin, 34, a male prisoner of war, who told us how a comrade was forced to perform a sex act on himself.
Although Oleksandr has informed the Ukrainian security services, he has not formally logged what he witnessed as war-related sexual violence.

Alisa Kovalenko is on a mission to record the harrowing testimonies of war victims
Nor has he recorded how he was himself forcibly stripped and electrocuted countless times during nearly three years in prison. Some victims feel too ashamed to come forward, fearing that neighbours in their villages will know what happened to them.
Others, thankful to have escaped with their lives, question what good it will do to report the crimes of Vladimir Putin’s forces.
It is no wonder, then, that some experts say the true number of victims of Russian sexual violence is likely to be ten times greater than the nearly 400 who have gone through the intrusive process of giving evidence to the Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s Office.
That would mean some 4,000 harrowing stories – like those of Halyna, Olha, Tetiana, Liudmyla and Oleksandr.
Many of the details are too graphic to report in full.
But for SEMA Ukraine, a survivor network to which these women belong, it is vital to catalogue these horrors comprehensively.
For them, this is the ‘Russian rape machine’, a systematic attempt to crush the Ukrainian will to fight.
Yet as Donald Trump increasingly pushes for peace at any cost, they fear their voices are being lost.
Olha Cherniak was forced to listen to her teenage son being tortured
Amid talk of mineral deals, ceasefires and land swaps, what attention has been paid to the suffering of these women and men, boys and girls?
What measures will be put in place to bring the depraved perpetrators to justice?
Even more concerning, they fear a deal could be offered to Moscow that sees amnesties granted in exchange for peace.
‘When we see what’s happening politically, what should we say to survivors?’ says Alisa Kovalenko, one of the first members of SEMA – which means ‘speak out’ in Swahili – and a documentary maker who has collected these testimonies for a powerful forthcoming film called Traces.
‘What will we say to them?’ she asks. ‘For what was this for?’
The 37-year-old has little doubt that the sexual violence unleashed by the Russians is an orchestrated weapon of war.
‘It is systematic,’ she tells us in Kyiv. ‘In some cases, it is a copy and paste, the same behaviour, the same methodology.
‘It is a way of destroying what’s inside a person – any motivation they might have to rebel. When you are so traumatised, will you rebel?
‘It is breaking so many people, not just the person who survived. It’s breaking all their connections with family, with their community.
‘It’s destroying some basis of your personality, it’s about taking your dignity away.’
For Alisa herself, this is a personal mission, one that began when she herself became a survivor of Russia’s rape machine.
Halyna was ordered at gunpoint to run around naked in the winter snow before being sexually violated with a gun
When Putin’s forces first invaded and occupied parts of Ukraine back in 2014, she travelled as a filmmaker to document the war in Donetsk.
Taking a taxi back through occupied territory, she was stopped at a checkpoint where her driver – falsely – told officers his passenger was ‘with the Ukrainian army’.
Alisa was dragged out of the car, accused of being a sniper, beaten and taken to a base for pro-Russian separatists and Russian armed militants. After hours of interrogation, a Russian officer took her to an apartment and forced her to take her clothes off and take a bath under his watch.
‘After, he didn’t let me put any clothes on, so I only had a small towel. He was cleaning his gun in front of me and after that he said we would have to sleep together in case I ran away.
‘I said: “Where will I run?” I begged him, I said I would not run so I could sleep alone.
‘I almost fell asleep and then he came and he started raping me. I started to cry.
‘You feel like you’re a paralysed animal or an object because you feel absolutely empty inside. You are frozen. I didn’t feel my body at all.
‘Then, after he stopped, he said: “Nothing happened.” ’
Alisa’s partner Stephane, 46, a fellow journalist with whom she has a seven-year-old son, Theo, managed to apply pressure and she was freed after four days.
‘When I was leaving, Grom, the nickname of this Russian officer, told me I had to thank him that I was not killed,’ Alisa said.
It took five years and a meeting with the inspirational founder of SEMA, Iryna Dovhan, for her to become one of the first Ukrainians to give formal testimony of sexual assault by a Russian soldier. That was in 2020.
‘Everything started with Iryna,’ Alisa said. ‘Thanks to her, really, a revolution is happening in this field.’ Iryna was living in occupied Donetsk in 2014 when pro-Russian forces came to her house, detained, sexually assaulted and tortured her.
Then they took her into the street, put her against a lamppost, draped a Ukrainian flag over her and hung a sign over her neck that said she was killing children.
It was only when a photograph of her being beaten by bystanders went viral on social media that she left Donetsk.
Ever since, she has made it her mission to document the crimes of the Russians, forming SEMA in 2019 and working to overcome the stigma felt by the survivors.
Iryna is the central figure in Alisa’s documentary, which details her mission to encourage victims to come forward. ‘I always felt that if I stayed unhappy and broken, then my enemies had achieved what they wanted,’ Iryna says in the film.
‘It was very important for me not to let them make me unhappy. This is my weapon that I constantly shoot them in the forehead with.
‘I try to convey this to other women, that the fact that they have overcome [their ordeals] is the best slap in the face to the enemy.’
It was Iryna who helped convince Halyna, the 62-year-old widow savagely raped with a Kalashnikov near Bucha in 2022, to tell her story.
‘She could have died from her injuries,’ says Iryna. ‘She was suffering so much, alone in her cold house. She was traumatised.’
Meanwhile, Olha was the first woman to be tortured with electricity in the Kherson detention centre, where she spent almost a year held in a 3 x 3-metre cell with six other women. She could hear her teenage son’s screams from a neighbouring cell.
The mother was made to stand for hours on end and repeatedly given electric shocks. The torture was so bad she lost consciousness.
Banned from using the toilet, she would wet herself – yet another evil part of her humiliation.
Her son finally made it out from occupied territory just last month and the family was reunited after more than two years of hell.
Like all SEMA members, Tetiana, 61, whose husband was shot in front of her, refuses to let the Russians win.
‘After a while I felt, I’m Ukrainian, you bloody swine,’ she says in the film. ‘You think you raped me? If you humiliated me, you drove me to the point where I didn’t want to live any more? No way – I am not giving that to you!’
Liudmyla Mefodiivna, 77, was living alone in Myroliubivka, Kherson, when she saw a Russian soldier come to her home in 2022.
‘As soon as I opened the doors, I immediately received a blow to the face with the butt of a gun,’ she told Alisa. The blow knocked her teeth out. After they raped her, the Russian soldier threw a Kalashnikov bullet at her and said: ‘One sound and I’ll kill you with this.’
Another woman, who cannot be named, was left with hepatitis after being raped by a Russian soldier. Alisa said: ‘She was in a horrible psychological state. She was crying all the time, and all the people in her village started to not communicate with her because she was always sad and depressed.
‘After we started to help her it was amazing how she changed.
Iryna Dovhan was taken out into the street and beaten
‘Just a few months later I saw her smiling, joking and laughing – one of those moments that inspires you to continue this challenging work.’
None of these accounts is more recent than 2022, but Ukrainian soldiers returning through prisoner swaps report that the systematic abuse is still ongoing.
By some accounts, 90 per cent of detained Ukrainian male soldiers have been subjected to some kind of torture or sexual violence.
Oleksandr Gudilin, 34, was defending Mariupol when he was captured and detained in April 2022. He was finally released in December.
Speaking to the Mail, Oleksandr said: ‘At first, it all seemed relatively civil, but when I was severely beaten in the kidneys, I realised no one was going to follow the Geneva Convention.’ He was made to undress before being beaten and herded into a bath to wash.
‘You stand under a shower and they electrocute you,’ he said. ‘That’s when I really felt how well water conducts electricity. They shocked our hands, legs, backs...
‘You’re not allowed to look at the officers – but they look at you all the time. What are you supposed to do, standing there naked?’
Alisa says: ‘This is coming from a country where there are no basic human rights. That’s why I believe we have such a massive wave of crimes from Russia – and not just sexual violence. Because there are no values in this society.’
Along with her fellow women in SEMA, she believes Russia must be added to the United Nations’ ‘List of Shame’ – the roster of countries held responsible for violations including the systematic use of sexual violence.
Were that to happen, this would be a first step, giving the women some hope that the international community has not forgotten them. A letter from SEMA is currently sitting on the desk of Secretary General Antonio Guterres.
In the meantime, they will carry on documenting Russia’s crimes, no matter the political climate.
‘We just continue to do something, without knowing if it will really achieve justice,’ says Alisa.
‘Maybe it will not happen for 20 years. But we at least have to document it. I think that is the minimum that we can do.’
  • Traces, by Alisa Kovalenko and Marysia Nikitiuk, will be released in autumn 2025.
 

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-Honestly might be the best outcome. I'd rather have Donald lose interest than actively work against Ukraine...

Might be a silver lining to that strung out attention span after all.

Assuming that he (and US by extension) will be just completely walking away is what that means.

Having 0% US involvement and letting europe united backing Ukraine is definitely more preferable than our current situation.
 
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So much war. I do not understand one bit of it. Russia's Gazprom was getting richer by the day with having a continously growing consumer such as Europe as a customer, pre-Ukraine War. Now they are completely alienated because of the attacks on Ukraine.
There where 2(*2) nordstream gas pipelines connecting Russia and Europe.
Closing offices in Russia because of reduced natural gas sales.

Maybe President Putin got COVID in the head or something. Lot of those types together with brainfog and constant fever.
Also at the Ukraine.

Anyway.

Excerpt from text :
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Nord Stream’s business model is to provide gas transportation capacity for the natural gas coming from western Russia for distribution into the European gas grid. The gas transportation system is comprised of its twin, 1,224-kilometre pipelines through the Baltic Sea. Each has the capacity to transport 27.5 billion cubic metres of natural gas a year.

As operator, Nord Stream AG offers gas transportation capacities via its pipelines. This entails the day-to-day technical operation and commercial handling of gas transport (dispatching), the maintenance of all technical systems involved, continued liaison with permitting authorities in the countries through whose waters Nord Stream runs, as well as adhering to environmental management obligations and relevant technical standards (codes) of the respective permitting countries.

A contractual framework is in place to ensure the transport of gas from the entry point of the Nord Stream pipelines in Vyborg, Russia to the exit point in Lubmin, Germany. Nord Stream AG does not own, buy or sell gas transported via its twin pipelines – the trade in natural gas is solely between the shipper and its respective business partners in Europe. In Germany, the gas is received by the connecting pipelines OPAL (Baltic Sea Pipeline Link) and NEL (North European Gas Pipeline) for further transport into the European grid.
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That is 55 billion cubic metres of gas, every year ! Getting rich sleeping for Russia. And they threw it all away.

Grey hydrogen is cracked methane and natural gas composition is just 80% to 96% methane.
Cracking is done by use of, like for example "Fischer Tropsch process" or the "Sabatier reaction".
Blue hydrogen is just cracked methane with the CO2 produced scrubbed and captured and reused to make oil again to have oil ready, for example for plastics.
Green hydrogen well ,we know what Green hydrogen is : It does not exist at the moment.

If there would have been no Ukraine war, there would now be mutual efforts by several countries including Russia and the Ukraine to create hydrogen and hydrogencarriers like ammonia on a large scale. To capture CO2 and reuse CO2.
To transit from a methane powered society to a hydrogen powered society.

Now Russia owns a lot of old natural gas tanker ships and the nordstream pipelines are gone, blown up.
Natural gas sales are low. The Ukraine has a lot of poor people that had to flee from their beloved homes and a lot of poor deceased victims.
Mentioning Russia leaves an "Iron curtain" style feeling.

It is insanity.
 
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Assuming that him (and US by extension) just completely walking away is what that means.

Having 0% US involvement and letting europe united backing Ukraine is definitely more preferable than our current situation.
The issue? Russia will force the US to fully side with them even by selling some weapons... something that Trump denied to Europe, save for certain "friends".
There's no such thing as an alliance with Russia without China. Russia is China's resource extraction reservation. Russian foreign policy can be "independent" only so far as it doesn't hurt China's access to Russia's resources.

If somehow the leadership of Russia wanted an alliance with Retardo's America (they don't) it would only be in-name-only and entirely fictitious. All they want is every card the Retard will give them and he's given plenty for nothing.
Never say never. Trump is so near Russia that even moderate Republicans are worried now. If Trump goes the Oligarch route, it will be over for them.
 
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