Question are video card prices headed down yet?

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DaaQ

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no i refuse to buy a GPU that cost more then my CPU + Board + Ram combined.
That is just stupid, and u know how expensive my 3 are.
Or for the price of a decent used car that is not a buy here pay here place. (think younger people) Back in my day!!!! I bought my first car for $100. (back when I would get yelled at to get off their lawn) You know that house that is on the corner walking home from school and you would cut across to the other street.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Decent video on system building in 2025 by Iceberg. The $1k usd system can play quite a bit of free or cheap games at decent performance levels. Why buy overpriced junk for overpriced junk games?

I have an opinion. I know I know, you are all aghast at the very idea I would weigh in on an issue. Especially with an unpopular POV.

This is one of his worst videos. It's based on the highly flawed Steam survey; that alone is reason enough to discard it. Then the whole video is nothing more than the PCMR hivemind advice of playing your backlog, the classics you missed, FTP; many of which run on a potato. This solves nothing as it's not going to help anyone with a GTX or older AMD GPU looking to upgrade. Because settling for an overpriced 4050 being sold as 60 series, is terrible advice. The market has sucked more often since 2017 than not. The memes lamenting how they were told last year to wait for next gen AMD and Nvidia, only to get burned by doing so, are on point.

When your audience is mostly DIY, expect to get a ration of 💩 when you are way off the mark. AM4 is the most popular DIY platform of all time. The 5600/X is the most popular CPU of all time. That should be the basis of the build. Few DIYers are using a 4060 as their primary card either, if they even own one. The 3060 12GB is much more popular in our segment and makes more sense. That he doesn't understand why the 4060 went from first to second spot speaks to how conditioned most are to accept fake news. It was the recurrent massive distortion produced by Chinese gaming centers. It's why the Chinese language jumps by 20%-25% at the same time. Never mind it's opt in, or that millions of WoW, Fortnite, GoG, and some other players don't even have the Steam launcher installed. Let alone respond to the survey.

Prices are not going to get better in any meaningful sense. Everything has gotten more expensive, and fatter margins are fatter.
 

Stg-Flame

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GodisanAtheist

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I saw this coming and bumped up my Nvidia stock a few months ago. On one hand, this pisses me off to no end because it means the GPU prices will only go up and stay up, on the other hand, so will my stock value...

-Market is so divorced from reality right now that Jen Hsun could crap in a box and Trump could slap a 1000% tarrifs on it and NVDA would be skying.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Oh, joy. Glad I got a 6700XT almost two years ago I guess.

Yeah, I don't regret getting a 6800XT either.
Those cards are aging well. IIRC you both got them for good prices too. My RX 6800 served me well for a year. Now it's been sitting in its box for 18 months? The way things are going I'll get most of my money back if I time it right.

My son finally installed the Hellhound 7800XT I gave him, and gave me his 3060 12GB. He only upgraded because it started crashing in Cyberpunk. Of course it just needed a repasting after 4 years. For testing I have it paired with the slowest CPU I use; 5600X3D. With DLSS 4 card runs games like a champ. If I was cash strapped and looking for a NIB card, it'd be my pick. That the MSI and Gigabyte are $330 when a card that old should be $200 incapsulates the present market.

Comparing it to Battle Mage, I can't in good conscience recommend the B580 to most gamers. There are too many caveats. If you are just going to play new stuff and you have a modern system with a mid tier PCIe 4 CPU like a 5700XT or 12600KF, and are willing to effort streaming, recording, and screenshots via other apps, then cool. But the slower 3060 has the more robust software suite, equal vram, significantly less CPU overhead, superior game compatibility, and does not suffer in PCIe 3 mode.
 

Sonikku

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I'm feeling smarter and smarter all the time for jumping on that $600 7900XT deal I posted about around here back in November. ^_^ 20gb vram is all I'm gonna need til it's time to upgrade. I learned my lesson. I passed on $500 rtx 2080 cards because everybody was saying "the 3080 is only $700 and is just around the corner" only to never see one in person ever and the cheapest 3070s being $1000 on newegg. No way I'm making that mistake again! Strike while the iron is hot!
 

GodisanAtheist

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I'm feeling smarter and smarter all the time for jumping on that $600 7900XT deal I posted about around here back in November. ^_^ 20gb vram is all I'm gonna need til it's time to upgrade. I learned my lesson. I passed on $500 rtx 2080 cards because everybody was saying "the 3080 is only $700 and is just around the corner" only to never see one in person ever and the cheapest 3070s being $1000 on newegg. No way I'm making that mistake again! Strike while the iron is hot!

 

CP5670

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The 5090 is sporadically in stock at the local microcenters, I get texts from them about it and the price difference if I sell my 4090 is $700-800. But I'm not very interested in the card anymore in the first place, all the games I care about already work very well. I would rather upgrade my oled if I'm spending that much.
 
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Anyone considering a 5090 seriously despite common sense screaming like hell in the back of their mind, here's something else to help you make your decision: https://www.igorslab.de/en/local-ho...yout-and-cooling-design-do-not-work-together/

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Stg-Flame

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The 5090 is sporadically in stock at the local microcenters, I get texts from them about it and the price difference if I sell my 4090 is $700-800. But I'm not very interested in the card anymore in the first place, all the games I care about already work very well. I would rather upgrade my oled if I'm spending that much.
Aren't the 5XXX series still having massive amounts of issues? I don't know why anyone would sink that kind of money into something so faulty.
 

aigomorla

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Aren't the 5XXX series still having massive amounts of issues? I don't know why anyone would sink that kind of money into something so faulty.
because if ur a numb nut like me who decided to upgrade his system last year, and needs a videocard because he promised his brother his 4090, then were SOL.

no one really assumed scalpers could hold out this long, but again, no one assumed nvidia would have a pole in there rear and hold inventory for AI farms more then appealing to the small audience.

I think this is more a ploy on the AI farms to prevent homebrew AI systems from being made and taking AI off private, so they can data farm every question imaginable, like "how can i please my wife to allow me to buy a 5090 without getting served divorce papers."

The 5090 is sporadically in stock at the local microcenters,

Its still stupidly priced.
I will pay for founders at 1999, anything more then that, then no way.
Thats a down payment on a car, rent payment for some people, and even what most lower class / middle class take home after taxes each month.
 

jpiniero

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Its still stupidly priced.
I will pay for founders at 1999, anything more then that, then no way.
Thats a down payment on a car, rent payment for some people, and even what most lower class / middle class take home after taxes each month.

I looked on nowinstock and the cheapest it's been (for what they track) is 3 grand.
 

Shmee

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How is stock looking for the 9070 series for everyone? As well as pricing. I'm not in the market, just curious.
 
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