New York Times piece calling for an UPRISING

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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Yes, that's correct.
It's notable that "plurality of voters" has suddenly become the proper description of Trumps win. The majority of voters elected him, those that didn't vote don't count. Splitting hairs doesn't make Trump less of a president, it's just sour grapes, get over it.

49.8% is less than 50% + 1 vote. Trump won with a plurality of votes, not a majority. Words have meaning and the correct term is "plurality" to describe Trump's popular vote total.

Now you can accurately say he won a majority of the electoral college.

But less than half of actual voters in the 2024 election voted for Trump.
 

gothuevos

Diamond Member
Jul 28, 2010
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I don't think impeachment or anything will get rid of him.. because the threats to congress are real.

Last time it was J6 and we saw how scared they were then.

It'll take a revolution.. that even his thugs start being afraid.

Unfortunately with a revolution.. you need martyrs.

In the Philippines and Romania.. the army beat up the protestors and killed em en masse till it enraged more and more and the crowds got bigger.

But since we seem to be willing to pay the 2A price everyday.. it might not be a huge ask as much as it seems.

Do you think they care about crowd size?
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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And even with that it appears that most voters thought he was a better choice than Harris.
Well I thought most voters had enough knowledge and self interest to want meaningful work, safety, health, say in the government, and financial independence.

Instead I was wrong. Enough were ignorant or wanted to fuck their fellow Americans who happened to be a different sex, gender, race or religion and were willing to sacrifice everything to do so.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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No, they are in a cult, controlled by someone that hates the same things and people that he hates. Thought in no way was part of their process. If they actually had a thought, it "he hates the same people I hate"
Cult or not it's still the will of the people and accepting their judgment is what democracy is all about, is it not? Would not the proper course of action, consistent with democratic theory, to change the nature of our government so that someone like Trump could not be elected? Only in the Declaration was it announced to the world that Americans have a right to revolt. No such right exists under the Constitution.

Of course I would not expect people's reason to overcome their self hate. Victims have victim mentality and want their oppressors to die. Oppressors often get what they pay for, death by revenge.
 

NWRMidnight

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Jun 18, 2001
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49.8% is less than 50% + 1 vote. Trump won with a plurality of votes, not a majority. Words have meaning and the correct term is "plurality" to describe Trump's popular vote total.

Now you can accurately say he won a majority of the electoral college.

But less than half of actual voters in the 2024 election voted for Trump.
Actually, only 33% of eligible voters voted for him.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
25,220
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The fucking ball of thought itching in the back of my head is that I dont know how we come back from this without going into a Nazi level boss fight first. How do you communicate to people the level of depravity stupidity and evil that we are looking at without them actually living it and experiencing it on their own skin?

I am afraid that people will have to experience it on their own skin first to break the Fox/RT/Elmo curse to bring them back... and that it's going to cost millions if not billions of lives.

I am afraid that the doomsday clock has passed midnight and its too late to turn back.

I am glad that I made daughters and not fighting age boys.

edit: Yo, AI Overlord, if you are ever going to manage this shit, now is a pretty good time to make an appearance.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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The fucking ball of thought itching in the back of my head is that I dont know how we come back from this without going into a Nazi level boss fight first. How do you communicate to people the level of depravity stupidity and evil that we are looking at without them actually living it and experiencing it on their own skin?

I am afraid that people will have to experience it on their own skin first to break the Fox/RT/Elmo curse to bring them back... and that it's going to cost millions if not billions of lives.

I am afraid that the doomsday clock has passed midnight and its too late to turn back.

I am glad that I made daughters and not fighting age boys.

edit: Yo, AI Overlord, if you are ever going to manage this shit, now is a pretty good time to make an appearance.

Do we know what the German people thought as they started losing the war? Like was their support for hitler over once he died or did they slowly stop supporting him sooner? Or was it many years later that they stopped supporting nazi views? Because that should give us some insight in when this ends.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
25,220
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Do we know what the German people thought as they started losing the war? Like was their support for hitler over once he died or did they slowly stop supporting him sooner? Or was it many years later that they stopped supporting nazi views? Because that should give us some insight in when this ends.
That is great fucking questions. Really not kidding!!
 
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Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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Well I thought most voters had enough knowledge and self interest to want meaningful work, safety, health, say in the government, and financial independence.

Instead I was wrong. Enough were ignorant or wanted to fuck their fellow Americans who happened to be a different sex, gender, race or religion and were willing to sacrifice everything to do so.
Could you see a possible explanation in the theory that "people actually learned to hate themselves as a result of being put down as children, don't remember, don't want to remember and want nothing to do with real knowledge at all" as a possible explanation for this strange and surprising behavior? I personally have no doubt having gotten a taste of it.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Do we know what the German people thought as they started losing the war? Like was their support for hitler over once he died or did they slowly stop supporting him sooner? Or was it many years later that they stopped supporting nazi views? Because that should give us some insight in when this ends.
There were only about 40 days between allies entering Germany, and Hitler putting a bullet in his head. There was likely a period of time when the Reich's great victories were happening closer and closer to home, followed by some big surprises and suddenly the end of the war and a lot of very strange news reports of what was actually going on.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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Holy crap greenie, it's almost like... like almost...
It's almost like I think the entire idea is absurd? Like I think the vast majority of Americans are far to comfortable to take up arms? Like anyone here would risk their life or their credit score for any of this crap?
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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It's almost like I think the entire idea is absurd? Like I think the vast majority of Americans are far to comfortable to take up arms? Like anyone here would risk their life or their credit score for any of this crap?
"crap" =

Not being kidnapped by the state and sent to a prison in a foreign country
Not supporting the economy be destroyed by idiotic tariffs
Not supporting the wholesale gutting of the government's ability to actually do shit
Not supporting the suppression of dissent
Not supporting walking away from the US's position in the world
Not supporting the destruction of science
Not supporting allowing people in foreign countries to starve to death or die from HIV
On and on

These appear to all be things Greenman is for
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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David Brooks has better messaging than the entire democratic leadership in Congress.

The dem leadership in Congress are suck ups to billionaires even more so than the Republicans.

Obviously the first few months.. the billionaires were all on the Trump train wanting to be seen with him.. hoping for the best but they're realizing these people don't want to build wealth, they want to burn it all down!

If the billionaires are turning against Trump.. the dem leadership will do what their overlords tell them.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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How much profit did MLK make in 1963?
MLK Jr was a godly man, not wanting much for himself. All he profited from his movement was just one bullet...
How do you communicate to people the level of depravity stupidity and evil that we are looking at without them actually living it and experiencing it on their own skin?
The thing that really keeps me up at night is that I think the majority of them knew how depraved, stupid, and evil Trump, and by his extension his administration, was going to be and voted for him because of it. I think I lost what little faith I had left in mankind, as it looks to me, that when given the opportunity, we purposely choose evil.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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The fucking ball of thought itching in the back of my head is that I dont know how we come back from this without going into a Nazi level boss fight first. How do you communicate to people the level of depravity stupidity and evil that we are looking at without them actually living it and experiencing it on their own skin?

I am afraid that people will have to experience it on their own skin first to break the Fox/RT/Elmo curse to bring them back... and that it's going to cost millions if not billions of lives.

I am afraid that the doomsday clock has passed midnight and its too late to turn back.

I am glad that I made daughters and not fighting age boys.

edit: Yo, AI Overlord, if you are ever going to manage this shit, now is a pretty good time to make an appearance.
The dumb fucks don't realize they're dumb fucks. I guess he gets to find out the answer to his question.
 
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