Diet soft drinks could cause Type 2 Diabetes

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Why isn't there some surgical operation where the fatty tissue of the pancreas or liver can be removed? Or is it otherwise impossible to separate the fatty part from the essential part?
Impossible as of now.



Left is fatty liver. Right is healthy liver. You can see that the fatty liver looks gross and diseased. Only way to reverse its condition is with a special drug or extreme fasting. The Swiss have developed such a drug that forces the liver to burn off its stored fat but it's still in trials so not available to the general public and who knows how much it will cost when it becomes available. The current option is extreme fasting (think 4 days water fast. About a week or 10 days of normal eating then 4 days water fast again. Rinse repeat as long as necessary until the liver returns to normal).
 

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Impossible as of now.

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Left is fatty liver. Right is healthy liver. You can see that the fatty liver looks gross and diseased. Only way to reverse its condition is with a special drug or extreme fasting. The Swiss have developed such a drug that forces the liver to burn off its stored fat but it's still in trials so not available to the general public and who knows how much it will cost when it becomes available. The current option is extreme fasting (think 4 days water fast. About a week or 10 days of normal eating then 4 days water fast again. Rinse repeat as long as necessary until the liver returns to normal).
Old age, with COPD and T2D, really sucks. But I experienced improvements over the previous year.

Here's something I discovered:

Organic Cooked Beets by "Love Beets"

I had picked these up somewhere -- likely COSTCO -- a year ago. They just remained in the garage refrigerator unopened. I wondered if they were spoiled, but they were still in good condition. They are whole cooked beets vacuum sealed in several plastic packages for a whole box. I don't know why I'd ignored them: they have a lovely flavor. Who doesn't like beets?

After finishing more than half of this old purchase, I bought another box of the same.

Now . . . I'm looking for a reason to go out in public today at 8 AM. There's a health-food store downtown. I'm going to look for bottled beet juice. I should also make myself a salad today, or I will otherwise need to over-feed my army of red-worms.

UPDATE: JEE-SUS! Besides the usual V8 juice -- also good -- there are piles of vegetable juice opportunities for online purchase. Why not these options over fruit juice? Over Aspartame drinks?

It's the 25th of the month. I'm going to bang up my credit card with "next-month's money" following my rule about the 25th of the month. It's a grreat day! For movin' al;ong! It's a great day! For singin' a song!
 
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After finishing more than half of this old purchase, I bought another box of the same.

Now . . . I'm looking for a reason to go out in public today at 8 AM. There's a health-food store downtown. I'm going to look for bottled beet juice.
Everything in moderation.


When consumed in excess, beets can cause kidney stones and may cause accumulation of unwanted byproducts in the liver, leading to damage. They can also end up creating carcinogenic substances in blood if the blood nitrate levels increase over the normal limit. Excess amount could also lower the blood pressure too quickly, leading to a medical emergency.

UPDATE: JEE-SUS! Besides the usual V8 juice -- also good -- there are piles of vegetable juice opportunities for online purchase. Why not these options over fruit juice? Over Aspartame drinks?

Yeah veggie juice seems fine but just research if the veggies you like have any side effects when consumed in excess. V8 seems to be safe and I guess one or two glasses a day cannot hurt.
 

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Everything in moderation.


When consumed in excess, beets can cause kidney stones and may cause accumulation of unwanted byproducts in the liver, leading to damage. They can also end up creating carcinogenic substances in blood if the blood nitrate levels increase over the normal limit. Excess amount could also lower the blood pressure too quickly, leading to a medical emergency.



Yeah veggie juice seems fine but just research if the veggies you like have any side effects when consumed in excess. V8 seems to be safe and I guess one or two glasses a day cannot hurt.
I can't see myself eating beets to excess, but for too long in my life, I didn't have any. I think I'm going to have about four small beets today, or otherwise some pickled beets in a salad. And I don't get enough salad, either . . .

Oddly, I feel great today, but too tired to do my 1-miler walk. I deserve a break after completing my walk each day for the last week. I'm just going to chill and watch my garden grow . . . Maybe I'll drive down to the store and pick up a pound of those Buffalo hot wings . . .
 

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NEW INFO: Equally relevant to another thread on the chemical derivation of aspartame.

There seems to be more opinions -- on WebMD for instance -- indicating a long-term detriment to kidney and liver health in regular aspartame consumption. I was looking at my eGFR and uACR kidney markers, clicking the "trend" button on each one. It seems that my eGFR began deteriorate from 90 in February 2024 as I continued consuming aspartame sparkling drinks (love that Golden Peach variety). I could suspect my binging on Heath bars, candy orange wedges and Milk Duds causing my blood sugar to increase as of February. But I've been indulging in aspartame since 2022 or 2023.

But aspartame apparently slows down the metabolism, also creating that effect on A1C. More frightening -- they list Alzheimers as a risk that may increase with aspartame consumption. Damn!

I can get Stevia soft drinks on Amazon, and they don't seem very expensive. I think I'll order a few cases, and learn to live with any "metallic taste" of the Stevia. I just hope my regular dosage of Acacia Senegal or gum arabic can reverse some decline of my kidney function.

Old age sucks, even if one continues to have an adolescent streak in behavior.

Which is to say -- actually -- I shouldn't have to worry about the cannabis gummies. 5 PM -- time for my second Metformin tab.

Meanwhile, today, after walking my mile and drinking my beet and lemon juice with the acacia fiber, my Willie-the-weiner feels great, my bladder is comfortable and OK, and my kidneys seem to be working fine. My pee is light yellow and no more "foamy" than it had ever been to my remembrance.

Here's something that's no secret: WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! WE'RE GONNA DIE!!
 
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I went all in and pretty much eliminated all drinks but milk and tea.

Try xyiltol in small doses. It has the birch beer flavor and is a naturally-occuring compound, although what you buy is from processing corn.
 

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I went all in and pretty much eliminated all drinks but milk and tea.

Try xyiltol in small doses. It has the birch beer flavor and is a naturally-occurring compound, although what you buy is from processing corn.
You may be aware of the miniature cans of some soft drinks and v8 juice. I had 3 conventionally sweetened Canada Dry Ginger Ales yesterday, but my doctor had doubled my Metformin doses. I'm vacationing at my brother's place in Nevada. But every day I continue to drink 8oz of V8 beet-ginger-lemon with 1TBsp of Acacia Senegal, with coffee and V8 juice. We dined at the Carson Valley Inn restaurant yesterday, ordering the surf-and-turf lobster and tenderloin with string beans and modest potatoes au gratin, and our share of a 2021 [napa valley] Merlot.

Cheerios and milk with banana for breakfast, leftover fried chicken for lunch. My urinary tract behaves wonderfully. And I'm acclimatizing to 5,200 ft elevation, getting around adequately without dyspnea or stress incontinence. BP tonight is 135/88, and BO bounces between 88 and 94. I'll be home at 900 ft elevation Saturday. Then back to normal morning walk regimen, vowing to do 2 miles and give patience for the extra time it takes. [But . . . we're still all-gonna-die . . . . ]
 

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It seems drinking a normal amount of coffee or tea is also good to reverse non alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) symptoms.
I drink coffee a lot but i keep it really weak in strength. No Espresso for me. Also, i drink my coffee black, no sugar or cream for me.

What I read about coffee seemed to defy the usual cautions about blood-pressure: to wit -- if one had been drinking coffee throughout his/her lifetime, it won't have a significant effect to raise blood pressure. Further, it is good for the kidneys.

I've taken a hiatus from my daily walk for more than a week, but my blood pressure still vacillates between 125 / 75 and 135 / 80.

I need to further research the uncertain and tentative discoveries or assertions about artificial sweeteners and insulin. I've ditched Aspartame drinks, because the sweetener metabolizes into substances which -- over a long term -- can do kidney harm. Stevia will lower blood pressure, and there are minor cautions if one is taking blood pressure meds, but I can't take it seriously. Sucralose + Acesulfame-potassium may induce secretion of insulin, so there could be caution for diabetics such as myself. I found a wonderful Shasta Grapefruit Soda sweetened by the sucralose combination.

But I think I'm going to look further at these substances for how they may induce unintended secretions controverting my diabetes Metformin medication.

I'm hoping that it isn't so, but I may want to curtail my ingestion of any sweeteners, despite my longstanding habit.

So! I will fast for the latter half of this day, and go to the clinic tomorrow to have my blood drawn and urine sampled. I'm hoping for better results with the kidney markers eGFR and UACR -- desiring results of 90 and below 85 respectively. The desired result for the latter is 35. I just need to reassure myself that I'm not sliding to the grave at an unnecessary rate of decline. Keep my eyesight; keep my kidney health, avoid heart attacks. THEN what?! Losing my mind?! I hope not!

So far, there are no signs portending the loss of my driver's license. I've been feeling pretty well for several weeks -- maybe months now. . . .

UPDATE FROM THE GOOGLE "AI" SEARCH ON STEVIA:

Stevia, a natural, calorie-free sweetener, generally does not negatively impact insulin levels in people with type 2 diabetes. Some studies suggest that it may even improve blood glucose control and increase insulin secretion in response to glucose. However, more research is needed to confirm these findings.

Here's a more detailed look at the potential effects of stevia on insulin in individuals with type 2 diabetes -- comforting information:

In conclusion, stevia appears to be a safe and potentially beneficial sweetener for people with type 2 diabetes. It may improve blood glucose control and increase insulin secretion, but more research is needed to confirm these effects and understand the optimal dosage and long-term impacts.
 
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