Nitpicking: IBM chose the 8088, not the 8086 😉
It's the same reason why x86 continues to live. Despite its IPC superiority, Apple M4 cannot run a Geforce 4090 or 5090 or 9070 XT. And suppose Apple came out with a micro-ATX board for it tomorrow (very unlikely), how interested would AMD/Nvidia be in rewriting their GPU drivers for it? Apple would have to PAY both for the driver development and then hope the cost pays off in the end. They could totally go down this path but they are rolling in so much cash that they go "meh" at even the thought of it.
Apple struck gold, oil, and a mine full of diamonds with the iPhone. Everything else matters little.As you said very unlikely. Should really be no chance in hell. Apple loves their walled garden and controlling everything. They would never allow anyone to possibly tarnish their brand. Also, it's not like they need the money
…and to think: the first iPhone almost had an Intel chip inside! 🤣Apple struck gold, oil, and a mine full of diamonds with the iPhone. Everything else matters little.
The Smartphone is the classic example of the thing we didn't even know we desperately needed.…and to think: the first iPhone almost had an Intel chip inside! 🤣
The Smartphone is the classic example of the thing we didn't even know we desperately needed.
It wasn't that AMD chips ran hot, it was that they lacked effective thermal protection.Socket A Thunderbirds where freakin awesome. I am never a big fan of these stacked comparisons. 6 months to a year before this Intel CPU's would do the same. Intel came up with their speed step for slowing down as tempatures got higher, first, and all of a sudden it was look how bad AMD is because their CPU's will burn up without a cooler. Instead of being a cool feature Intel CPU's it became proof that AMD chips ran hot and were bad.
Well it isn't as if Intel integrated the thermal diode 10 years before, huh.It wasn't that AMD chips ran hot, it was that they lacked effective thermal protection.
Back in the day Intel chips had built in thermal protection well before speed step. They would just stop working if they got hot but they were not damaged and worked fine once they cooled down.
I specifically remember because I sent an AMD computer to a friend. Somehow it ended up with the heatsink off and the AMD CPU burned up dead.
Also one of the AMD owners (who gave me a hard time for buying Intel) burned up his AMD CPU. The AMD owners made it sound like this would never happen but it did happen, twice that I know of personally.
It was a dumb thing not to have. Thousands of transistors and you can't put one thermal diode in there?
Yeah IDK the video at Tom's is my earliest recollection of the topic. Tom's indicates that Intel's 2 year old solution at the time was better than AMD's most recent efforts at the time.Well it isn't as if Intel integrated the thermal diode 10 years before, huh.
Crackberry was the homerun.The corporate world knew for a long time prior. Things like the Palm Pilot and the Compaq iPaq were around for years prior, and there were teams actively working on the concepts of converged devices. Apple gets credit for being the first to pull it off.
Yep, from memory, it was (IMO) from previous generation with Intel meaning socketed PIII. Not really a lot earlier than AMD.Yeah IDK the video at Tom's is my earliest recollection of the topic. Tom's indicates that Intel's 2 year old solution at the time was better than AMD's most recent efforts at the time.
I did run across some evidence that Intel might have had some sort of thermal protection as early as the P1:
Pentium® OverDrive® processors with MMX™ technology
Runs Slower if the Fan is Disabled
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The system seems slower than normal with the Pentium® OverDrive® processor with MMX™ technology installed. Across all applications, the performance drop appears the same. Diagnostics report the processor working at the proper speed.
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The fan is not working. The thermal protection circuitry built into the microprocessor is reducing the number of instructions performed, thus slowing the system.
Yep, from memory, it was (IMO) from previous generation with Intel meaning socketed PIII. Not really a lot earlier than AMD.
Then, I would not take Tom's as a source of anything but garbage. Another source would be better but it is around that era.
AFAIR next AMD generation had a diode which should mean Athlon XP Palomino and next ones.
A good lesson to us to properly define our terms! re microcontrollers, I hear you; you've awakened memories that I've tried to forget, even if I wasn't directly involved. Ugh.If we're going farther afield, there are a couple of microcontrollers whose designers I would very much like a word with in a dark alley...