Well, apparently we are losing some freedoms.

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nakedfrog

No Lifer
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Castle doctrine is only for white on black or white on brown. Not gonna apply on white vs nazi much less brown vs nazi.
Possibly only a matter of time before a non-white ICE agent enters the home of a white person though, and it could be in a non-chud state with a non-fascist judge.

Edit: of course, you're far more of a doomer about all this stuff than I am. To hear you tell it the fascists have already won, which is a shit attitude and I encourage you to get the fuck over it.
 

fskimospy

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Possibly only a matter of time before a non-white ICE agent enters the home of a white person though, and it could be in a non-chud state with a non-fascist judge.

Edit: of course, you're far more of a doomer about all this stuff than I am. To hear you tell it the fascists have already won, which is a shit attitude and I encourage you to get the fuck over it.
As I understand it currently masked and unidentified agents are authorized to break into houses without a warrant to arrest people.

That someone’s going to get shot or killed is a question of when, not if.
 

DZero

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Possibly only a matter of time before a non-white ICE agent enters the home of a white person though, and it could be in a non-chud state with a non-fascist judge.

Edit: of course, you're far more of a doomer about all this stuff than I am. To hear you tell it the fascists have already won, which is a shit attitude and I encourage you to get the fuck over it.
If that happens will start with poor people and oppositors of Trump.
 

Pens1566

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As I understand it currently masked and unidentified agents are authorized to break into houses without a warrant to arrest people.

That someone’s going to get shot or killed is a question of when, not if.

Considering that all the people they've been rounding up (except the 3yr olds with brain cancer) are "dangerous criminals", I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Edit: of course, you're far more of a doomer about all this stuff than I am. To hear you tell it the fascists have already won, which is a shit attitude and I encourage you to get the fuck over it.
Trump is literally sending legal residents to concentration camps and I'm supposed to have the kind of toxic positivity you libs paraded around last election?
 
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SteveGrabowski

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"You libs?"
Yeah, get fucked, dummy.
Do you not think we're in a house is on fire level emergency in this nation? Elon controls the treasury and Trump's sending people to death camps with the promise to El Salvador's dicktator that Americans are next. Don't tell me I'm exaggerating when I call CECOT a death camp when death is the only way you're supposed to ever be able to exit it. Tell me why I should not look at Trump's America as Nazi Germany. It's not game over yet since hopefully the military will take the side of the constitution instead of following orders from the Fuhrer when he orders them to start shooting protesters but we're in a horrible place when that's the last possible check available on Trump. Congress is gone as a check. So are the courts since he can't be imprisoned for violating them.
 

nakedfrog

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Do you not think we're in a house is on fire level emergency in this nation? Elon controls the treasury and Trump's sending people to death camps with the promise to El Salvador's dicktator that Americans are next. Don't tell me I'm exaggerating when I call CECOT a death camp when death is the only way you're supposed to ever be able to exit it. Tell me why I should not look at Trump's America as Nazi Germany. It's not game over yet since hopefully the military will take the side of the constitution instead of following orders from the Fuhrer when he orders them to start shooting protesters but we're in a horrible place when that's the last possible check available on Trump. Congress is gone as a check. So are the courts since he can't be imprisoned for violating them.
I think the fascists haven't won yet, which is exactly what I said. We're still talking freely on a message board, we can still gather, we can (mostly) move freely, we can organize, we can arm ourselves. They're taking L after L in the court system. If you truly believe it's already over I hope you're taking the appropriate actions, and TBH, even if you think it isn't over, I still hope you're taking the appropriate actions in the case that they do end up victorious.
 

VRAMdemon

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So ... are we finally going to get the answer to whether the Second Amendment really will protect us from a tyrannical government and protects our freedom?

Trump contemplated taking guns without due process. And, of course, to MAGA, he’s still the most pro-2A president ever, and it’s still the Democrats who are trying to take your guns away.
 
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alien42

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Nov 28, 2004
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Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee just voted to allow Trump to deport US citizens. Now waiting for the chorus yer again of “he would never do that”
They didn't vote to allow US citizens to be deported and you know that's misleading. They should have voted on guaranteeing it doesn't happen, but they didn't.
 
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NWRMidnight

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They didn't vote to allow US citizens to be deported and you know that's misleading. They should have voted on guaranteeing it doesn't happen, but they didn't.
What's the difference? If they are choosing to NOT guaranteeing it doesn't happen, they are voting to allow us citizens to be "deported", or rather excilled, and refuse to gaurantee that everyone's constitutional rights are fully protected. It's not misleading, it's fact. They essentially said "it's okay if ICE deports (excilles) US citizens, we have no problem with that", which means "We are allowing citizens to be deported (Excilled), because we refuse to uphold the constitution". You are also ignoring the horrendous fact that ICE is violating due process. How can a person prove that they are a citizen without due process? How are you going to do it when they come for your Alien42 ass, your family, or someone close to you because they are on the wrong side of "Trump's Dictatorship", because it's going to move beyond immigrants at some point? Every one of those Republican pieces of shit, which includes the President, ICE, and any other person who is involved, are all violating the constitution, and you are sitting here trying to cut hairs on semantic bullshit. So who is misleading what here?
 
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ch33zw1z

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They didn't vote to allow US citizens to be deported and you know that's misleading. They should have voted on guaranteeing it doesn't happen, but they didn't.
It should go as accepted and not needed to be said that deporting US citizens is wrong in every way.

With that, I’ll entertain your perspective on how what the vote was is different than what it means up front. Please elaborate

Of course, what we know is that GOP is interested in canceling the citizenship of anyone they deem unworthy

 
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pcgeek11

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You know, I think you may be the first person I've ever encountered using that word.




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"Oppositors" is not a standard English word. The word you're likely thinking of is "opposer" or "opponent". These terms refer to individuals or groups who are against someone or something, offering resistance, criticism, or disagreement.


Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Opposer:
    Someone who actively opposes or is in opposition to something, often with the intention of preventing it.
  • Opponent:
    A person or group that you are competing against or trying to defeat, especially in a game, contest, or conflict.

  • Adversary:
    A more formal term for an opponent, often suggesting a more serious or prolonged struggle.

  • Antagonist:
    A character or force in a conflict who opposes the protagonist.
 
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nakedfrog

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AI Overview
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"Oppositors" is not a standard English word. The word you're likely thinking of is "opposer" or "opponent". These terms refer to individuals or groups who are against someone or something, offering resistance, criticism, or disagreement.


Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Opposer:
    Someone who actively opposes or is in opposition to something, often with the intention of preventing it.

  • Opponent:
    A person or group that you are competing against or trying to defeat, especially in a game, contest, or conflict.


  • Adversary:
    A more formal term for an opponent, often suggesting a more serious or prolonged struggle.


  • Antagonist:
    A character or force in a conflict who opposes the protagonist.
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