Long-term planning my living room audio visual setup, considering the options

mikeymikec

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Current setup:

LG 32" 1080p TV circa 2010
Panasonic BR player (probably a similar age)
No permanent TV streaming setup
The TV is not receiving any broadcasts (mainly to avoid a UK TV licence)

Additional devices that are occasionally connected:

Wife's PC or my laptop via HDMI (which may occasionally include Amazon Prime Video)
My Amiga via SCART
N64 via SCART

Current uses (just to be explicit):
Watching DVDs/BRs
Watching stuff from either PC
Audio CD playback
Gaming
(all occasional)

Problems with current setup:
LG TV sound has problems: IMO (amateur opinion) it wouldn't surprise me if whatever method of securing the internal speakers has some kind of problem with cushioning with the chassis causing occasional bass distortions.
BR player is hit and miss when loading BR discs, nor can it do 4k)
If we want to listen to music in the front room, it requires the TV and BR player to be on which isn't a great solution. Easy phone connectivity would be nice too.
BR 4k playback would be nice too.

I highly doubt that I will ever do anything financially extravagant like buying three replacement bits of kit all in one go. One thought I've had is to get a sound bar first to correct the TV sound problem and to provide an easy / more energy efficient audio-only playback solution. Logically though, unless the BR player or TV unexpectedly die then I imagine that a 4k BR and 4k TV ought to be purchases made in quick succession, however I suppose a fully functional BR player that can also do 4k discs is a small step up from the current BR player.

Another potential approach I'm thinking of taking is to come up with two costed proposals, one being a three-piece setup that has bells and whistles like Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos (which good things are said about but I really don't know what they're like and therefore whether I would consider them to be worth spending more for), the other without and just being an improvement on the current setup. Another cheaper option is to dispense with the idea of a sound bar and continue doing things similarly to the present setup; if the current TV's speakers "just worked" then I would have less reason to want to replace it.

Do modern TVs still have a SCART socket? VGA? audio in with a 3.5mm jack?

Thoughts?
 

Fallen Kell

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Modern TV's have no analog connections like SCART, VGA, Component, and many cases even composite (RCA). They have all gone full digital. If you want to connect those kinds of devices to a modern system you need some kind of video processor to perform the conversion. I have a XRGB-Mini Framemeister that I use for this purpose, but these are discontinued. A similar more modern converter would be something like a RetroTINK-4K Pro or RetroTINK-4K CE (same overall input support including VGA, SCART, composite, S-Video, and DV ports, with cable dongles for composite, BNC, and a few specific game consoles (SNES/N64, PS1, and Genesis 2) but less options for processing the video to get the best possible results).

Also the audio on most modern TVs will most likely suck compared to your 2010 TV, as you may still have direct forward firing drivers, but most modern TVs have rear or downward firing drivers (as apparently showing a speaker on a TV is now a deadly sin, performance capability be damned, aesthetics trumps all performance, and besides how could they upsell you their crappy soundbar if they made decent speakers on the TV).

So you will almost certainly need to purchase something like the RetroTINK or similar with your new TV (so factor that into your costs, as they dropped support for analog in part based on the costs, and now you need to add it back in if it was important to you). You didn't really mention the type of TV you had, other than LG (but in 2010 LG had plasma TV's and LCD TVs). I suspect it is plasma if you have not had a serious urge to upgrade it already as the picture quality on the plasma TVs was really outstanding and if it wasn't for 4k resolution and HDR, there really is no reason to replace (LCD's from that era on the other hand would most likely show some serious age against current standards).

If you indeed do have a plasma, really only OLED will look right to you (it won't get as bright full screen as your plasma could, but it is an emissive display tech, so it will seem the most same to you as the plasma does, and give you the increase in resolution to 4k as well as HDR processing capabilities). I'm not normally one to recommend OLED if you are using retro consoles as it can be subject to burn-in, but so too was your plasma if you indeed had a plasma. If you had an LCD, I would recommend sticking with an LCD, and I wouldn't recommend any LCD except for one with 4x HDMI 2.1 ports, so really only a couple Samsung models. It isn't a dealbreaker now that there are HDMI 2.1 external switches available, but that is yet another device you may need in the future and something else that you would need to switch inputs with say a dedicated remote (or preferably some programmable remote like a now discontinued Harmony).

For blu-ray players, I really don't have much to tell you other than to wish you had decided to upgrade about 4-5 years ago. Most of the new stuff still isn't as good as the Oppo UDP-203 in the price range ($550) or UDP-205 is you wanted analog outputs ($1200), and you would need to spend significantly more on a modern one with barely covering the same capabilities. The closest you can get with a modern blu-ray player is the Magnetar UPD-800 or UDP-900, but it is over 3x the cost that you could have had a UDP-203 and UDP-205 respectively:

 
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