PC Gamer top 100 games list

thespyder · Jan 30, 2012

Yeah, so it looks like they went out to publishers and said 'How much to get your game on the list?' and the ranked by the dollar 'Contribution'. Explains why games like Baldur's Gate and Xcom aren't on the list. the developers are not around anymore in any form that would cough up money for the games.

As for newer games over older ones, I am all for shinier graphics and the evolution of games over time. but quite frankly, very little of what I see today falls into my idea of Evolution. More derivation than anything. Just because something came out this year, doesn't mean that it is preforce evolution of previous games. Just because it has better graphics doesn't mean that it is a 'better game'.

I have been obsessing about Skyrim since it came out. But i wouldn't consider it top 10 of all times material. Morrowind was much more original for it's time. So was Fallout 3 for that matter.

My personal list would be something like this:

Baldur's Gate 1&2 (plus ToB)
GTA 3 (I hated the game but it was at least original)
Morrowind
Fallout
Diablo
Doom
Xcom: UFO Defense
C&C
Ultima

Each of the above still have hard core fans in significant numbers even today. Each more or less started their own genres, or at least fundamentally changed the existing genre for all times. And each was innovative in their own right. And every one has the distinction that even today game designers are still trading on the name/franchise. And they are legends.

I haven't played Portal, so I can't comment on it, but I would be that 25 years from now people will say "Portal? Never heard of it."

At the end of the day, "Best of all times" better change the genre for all time in some fundamental way. For me anyway.

frozentundra123456 · Jan 31, 2012

Ferzerp said:
Oblivion was not a *great* game. It was a solid game, but it's flaws kept it from being engaging. The enemy leveling system was so problematic that it ruined the game. Nor can you judge a game based on what others do with it. You can't say it's a great game if you need 3rd party mods to get an enjoyable experience.

My first attempt to play it, I had non-combat major skills and got way overleveled for my combat ability to be able to progress far in the game.

On later attempts, I purposefully made bizarre classes (mage skills as primary, but never used magic) so that I could stay really low level.

I still got bored shortly after closing 1 or 2 oblivion gates each time I tried to play it.

Skyrim was a better game by far. I didn't get bored with it until about 50 hours in (so then I powered through the rest of the main quest, and haven't touched it since). Yes, it had leveling enemies, but it was not as obvious, and did not apply to random rats on the street...

One of my favorite things to do in Skyrim is go around and stealth kill every giant I can find with my bow, since at the start of the game they knocked you into space with one hit.

The dragons, however, seem to level along with my player. I have a lot of points into archery, but to kill the ancient dragons, I pretty much need to make them land and use melee.

Btw, I have over 100 hours in the game, and have a huge amount of quests left. However I have gotten kind of burned out and just go back for a few hours now and then. I am still working on the Thieves guild and mages guild quests.

natto fire · Jan 31, 2012

I put as much merit into these lists as the constant barrage of made up statistics I am assaulted with every day. At least this list is only making PCGamer look like the fools they are, other made up lists and stats are ruining much more in politics.

Ferzerp · Jan 31, 2012

frozentundra123456 said:
One of my favorite things to do in Skyrim is go around and stealth kill every giant I can find with my bow, since at the start of the game they knocked you into space with one hit.

The dragons, however, seem to level along with my player. I have a lot of points into archery, but to kill the ancient dragons, I pretty much need to make them land and use melee.

Btw, I have over 100 hours in the game, and have a huge amount of quests left. However I have gotten kind of burned out and just go back for a few hours now and then. I am still working on the Thieves guild and mages guild quests.

Dragons auto-leveled, as well as the main (and sub?) quest areas based on the first time you entered them. I never looked in to it too in depth. I was just interested in playing and not picking it apart (unlike oblivion where it was so in your face, you had to research it to avoid making a character that would cause all the enemies to be gods compared to your glass joe fighting ability).

Now if only they could somehow make it where sneak archer isn't the most effective character type (without doing a ton of min maxxing) in every elder scrolls game... Every time I play one, no matter how i start, i find myself sneak archering.

Stg-Flame · Monday at 9:55 PM

Is this a necro record?

Though it is funny to see Skyrim being praised back in 2012 and 13 years later Bethesda still haven't done anything past remastering the same game over and over again.

quikah · Monday at 10:01 PM

Stg-Flame said:
Is this a necro record?

Though it is funny to see Skyrim being praised back in 2012 and 13 years later Bethesda still haven't done anything past remastering the same game over and over again.

What do you mean, they switched it up and remastered Oblivion this time! Maybe they will do Skyrim again next time...

Zenoth · Monday at 11:23 PM

Too many multiplatform games anyways like in many "PC Games" lists out there. Many of them were first developed on a console dev kit and then ported to, and for a PC version, not the other way around. They're console games, on PC. It doesn't make them "PC Games", in my book. So I never really pay attention to such lists.

Shmee · Tuesday at 5:33 PM

Such a pity that the necro poster saying they love Quake 2 and Doom was just a spammer. I guess it sounded too good to be true. Those are great games.

GodisanAtheist · Tuesday at 6:06 PM

Zenoth said:
Too many multiplatform games anyways like in many "PC Games" lists out there. Many of them were first developed on a console dev kit and then ported to, and for a PC version, not the other way around. They're console games, on PC. It doesn't make them "PC Games", in my book. So I never really pay attention to such lists.

- Consoles are PCs now though. x86 CPU arch and AMD GPUs. Hell Xbox even runs an ultra slim Windows with DirectX and everything.

PC won the console wars, but at what cost?

Edit:

Not going to do a top 100 but here are awesome games which I have enjoyed immensely over time that are all available on PC:

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
Sid Meier's Civilization 2
Fallout 1 & 2 & NV
Doom 1 & 2
Planescape: Torment (The OG "Games are art")
Half-Life 1 & 2
Hollow Knight
Batman: Arkham Asylum & Arkham Knight
Simcity 2000
Sim Ant
System Shock 2
Deus Ex + Human Revolution + Mankind Divided (Invisible War can go DIAF)
Dishonored 1 & 2
Prototype 1 & 2
Left 4 Dead 1 & 2
Diablo 1 & 2
Starcraft + Broodwar
Homeworld (1 and only 1)
Company of Heroes
Darksiders 1 & 2 & 3
Shadow of Mordor (& War)
Bioshock 1 & 2 & Infinite
Psychonauts
Warcraft 2
The Witcher 2 & 3
Dragon Age 1 & 2 & Inquisition (with Mods)
X-Com Enemy Unknown
Hades
Mass Effect 1 & 2 & 3
Shadowrun: DragonFall
Portal 2
Dead Space 1 & 2
Broforce
Firewatch
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic + 2
Mount & Blade
The Stanley Parable
Full Throttle
The Legend of Monkey Island
Loom
Day of Defeat
Dawn of War 1 & 2
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2

And more stuff that I'm undoubtedly forgetting or never played right now.

Discuss.

DigDog · Thursday at 11:47 AM

GodisanAtheist said:
- Consoles are PCs now though. x86 CPU arch and AMD GPUs. Hell Xbox even runs an ultra slim Windows with DirectX and everything.

PC won the console wars, but at what cost?

Edit:

Not going to do a top 100 but here are awesome games which I have enjoyed immensely over time that are all available on PC:

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri - no, too easy.
Sid Meier's Civilization 2 - absolutely
Fallout 1 & 2 & NV - yes but not for me
Doom 1 & 2 - yes
Planescape: Torment (The OG "Games are art") - yes but not for me
Half-Life 1 & 2 - yes but not for me
Hollow Knight - never played
Batman: Arkham Asylum & Arkham Knight- never played
Simcity 2000 - meh
Sim Ant - never played
System Shock 2 - never played it. i know, i know.
Deus Ex YES Human Revolution NO Mankind Divided YES (Invisible War awwww .. i liked it.)
Dishonored 1 & 2 - meh
Prototype 1 & 2 - never played
Left 4 Dead 1 & 2- never played
Diablo 1 & 2 - probably, but i never played it
Starcraft + Broodwar - yes but not for me
Homeworld (1 and only 1) - hmm .. interesting choice. probably a Best Ever for some people.
Company of Heroes - never played
Darksiders 1 & 2 & 3 - never played
Shadow of Mordor (& War) - never played
Bioshock 1 & 2 & Infinite - meh again
Psychonauts - never played, i heard it was great.
Warcraft 2 - eh .. leaning on yes. work work !
The Witcher 2 & 3 - - never played (tried, failed)
Dragon Age 1 & 2 & Inquisition (with Mods) - never played
X-Com Enemy Unknown - yes
Hades - don't know. i heard good things.
Mass Effect 1 & 2 & 3 - ME1 yes, ME2/3 no.
Shadowrun: DragonFall - never played
Portal 2 - yes
Dead Space 1 & 2 - never played
Broforce - never played
Firewatch - never played .. but leaning on no.
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic + 2 idk, heard a lot of praise.
Mount & Blade - good .. but great?
The Stanley Parable - really not for me
Full Throttle - no. of ALL the point&click, this one is at the bottom of the list.
The Legend of Monkey Island - why but of course YES. And DOTT as well.
Loom - never played
Day of Defeat - never played
Dawn of War 1 & 2 - never played
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 - blasphemer .. C&C95 FOR LIFE !

And more stuff that I'm undoubtedly forgetting or never played right now.

Discuss.

there.

I would put .

Lemmings
Tekken 2 + 3
Gran Turismo 2
Elite, and maybe Wing Commander (they were all good). Space Rogue was amazing as well.
WipeOut 2097
the SSI "Gold Box" games, Champions of Krynn, Pool of Radiance, etc
Wasteland 1
Paradroid .. Archon ..Impossible Mission .. Prince Of Persia
i know, some are PlayStation, some are Commodore 64 .. be open minded ok ?
pretty much half of every arcade game ever made
Mario 64
Metal Gear Solid 2
Neverwinter Nights
Blacklight Retribution (don't ask)
Quake, Quake 3 Arena, Quake Live, but NOT Quake Champions. or Quake 2. Come on, it sucked. I dont care if instagib CTF was amazing on LAN.
Team Fortress 2 ?
CounterStrike?
Kerbal Space Program
FTL
Minecraft .. beta.
VTM Bloodlines? i wouldn't recommend it today.
Angband
Thief
maybe Goldeneye?
uhh .. Stalker SOC. yeah. better modded, but even with just the fixes and vanilla gameplay.
TimeSplitters 3
Armored Core 1
All we had to do was follow the damn train CJ !
Eye of the Beholder
Bards Tale 2

DigDog · Thursday at 11:48 AM

Shmee said:
Such a pity that the necro poster saying they love Quake 2 and Doom was just a spammer. I guess it sounded too good to be true. Those are great games.

DigDog said:
Quake 2 ... sucked. I dont care if instagib CTF was amazing on LAN.

Shmee · Thursday at 2:10 PM

Eh I thought it was a great Quake.

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