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iCyborg

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I'd prefer a liberal govt that is more fiscally conservative.
NDP sure, I'm not too familiar with BQ's views tbh.
 

Heartbreaker

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I'd prefer a liberal govt that is more fiscally conservative.
NDP sure, I'm not too familiar with BQ's views tbh.
If you are in Canada, how can you be unfamiliar with the BQ? Do you totally ignore politics?

"Fiscally conservative" usually goes with "Socially conservative" because it usually involves shutting down programs that help vulnerable people in the name of saving money, usually combined with tax cuts for "job creators", IOW Trickle Down economic BS.

I'd prefer the Liberals to be fiscally responsible. Have a solid economic plan and execute. As a highly lauded economist with tons of in the trenches practical experience, Carney seems well equipped to do that.
 

iCyborg

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If you are in Canada, how can you be unfamiliar with the BQ? Do you totally ignore politics?

"Fiscally conservative" usually goes with "Socially conservative" because it usually involves shutting down programs that help vulnerable people in the name of saving money, usually combined with tax cuts for "job creators", IOW Trickle Down economic BS.

I'd prefer the Liberals to be fiscally responsible. Have a solid economic plan and execute. As a highly lauded economist with tons of in the trenches practical experience, Carney seems well equipped to do that.
I'm not professionally involved with politics, I don't live in Quebec, and there's never been a BQ candidate in my riding, so forgive me if I'm uncertain where on the left-right spectrum BQ is.
My wording is perhaps a bit unfortunate in that besides a dictionary meaning, conservative has a strong political connotation as well. I could've also said "I wish they were more fiscally responsible".
 

Heartbreaker

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I hope fiscally conservative means something different in Canada than it does in the US because every time the "fiscal conservative" party in the US won the trifecta in the last 40 years they ballooned the deficit.

It's the same fairy tale. Tighten spending supposedly balanced by tax cuts that will spur growth.

The reality is that the wealthy just pocket the tax cuts, so there is no growth, and the tax cuts are usually bigger than the spending cuts (usually ideologically aimed at social programs), so you end up in even a worse fiscal position.

But at least some rich people got more money in their hordes, and the lives of some disadvantaged people, was made worse by those social program cuts, so the extra money it cost was not a total loss.
 
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Thank you.
@Red Squirrel still think he was doing a Nazi salute? You might wanna check your news sources, they've clearly been lying to you.
Also, it was the guy's left hand. Nazi salutes, as demonstrated by Elon and Adolf, are made with the right hand.

But you know, RS isn't wrong... he was just joking... with his deranged, right-wing-pickled brain...
 
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If you are in Canada, how can you be unfamiliar with the BQ? Do you totally ignore politics?

"Fiscally conservative" usually goes with "Socially conservative" because it usually involves shutting down programs that help vulnerable people in the name of saving money, usually combined with tax cuts for "job creators", IOW Trickle Down economic BS.

I'd prefer the Liberals to be fiscally responsible. Have a solid economic plan and execute. As a highly lauded economist with tons of in the trenches practical experience, Carney seems well equipped to do that.
Generally speaking, fiscal conservativism or fiscal responsibility just means "don't spend money on things I don't like."

There are ways that governments can better use their resources, but that's likely in areas not as visible to the public due to their technical nature (such as adopting some international best practices for say, running a transit agency).
 
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Iron Woode

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ATL is so blue it is scary; Carney will need to do something with that Maple MAGA Smith.
Traitor Smith's government is slowly imploding. The current scandal should be enough to get her to step down sooner or later.
 

JTsyo

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It's the same fairy tale. Tighten spending supposedly balanced by tax cuts that will spur growth.

The reality is that the wealthy just pocket the tax cuts, so there is no growth, and the tax cuts are usually bigger than the spending cuts (usually ideologically aimed at social programs), so you end up in even a worse fiscal position.

But at least some rich people got more money in their hordes, and the lives of some disadvantaged people, was made worse by those social program cuts, so the extra money it cost was not a total loss.
What was the definition of insanity again? Not sure why they keep going for it when they know it doesn't work but giving money to the bottom half spurs economy activity. Everyone comes out ahead in that situation.
 
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Heartbreaker

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What was the definition of insanity again? Not sure why they keep going for it when they know it doesn't work but giving money to the bottom half spurs economy activity. Everyone comes out ahead in that situation.

That is where giving the bottom half some kind of scapegoat to attack comes in. Angry people don't think so well.

If you get them angry at people of color, gay people, or immigrants they stop thinking and vote against their own economic interest, again, and again...

Easier if they are ignorant, bigoted pieces of shit to start with.
 

sdifox

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Private Healthcare contract corruption



I mean who knew private providers would inflate prices and politicians would pressure the healthcare CEO to sign deal.

 
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Iron Woode

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sdifox

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I agree, it's just funny to see conservatives scream about free markets, small gov't, etc....meanwhile their own gov't officials are picking the winners due to personal connections.
It's the inflating prices part that is the bigger problem. And all the coverup efforts.
 
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sdifox

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A reddit post with the timeline for the AHS scandal



Union post about this


Ousted MLA says premier knew about AHS problems


I hope RCMP does a through job and nail evey single person involved.
 
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Heartbreaker

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UNCjigga

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While the Albertan UCP scandal unfolds, their premier is flirting with separating from Canada and just lowered the threshold required for a referendum (Abexit anyone?)

Make no mistake—I smell the Trump Administration and their billionaire cronies eyeing an opportunity to find their 51st state—one very rich in minerals and fossil fuels. I wonder if they’re already playing Putin’s game.

 
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sdifox

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Heartbreaker

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Not sure how that referendum is going to fly when the first nations told Smith to pound sand. The people that have had treaty with the Federal government before existence of Alberta.


Childish games from Smith.

It looks like Carney was already set to work on pipelines etc that Alberta want, and she wants to make it looks like she did it by blackmailing him.
 
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