Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Muse

Lifer
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I am cautiously, very cautiously optimistic.

There have been so many rug pulls and this admin is in such disarray that I wonder what the catch is here. Someone quietly trying to help Ukraine without drawing too much attention? PR move to say the US is "finally" sending F-16s to Ukraine? Something to "bill" Ukraine for at outrageous prices as part of this minerals deal?

Help for Ukraine is help for Ukraine and if this admin somehow manages to actually stick with it then they'll have earned some respect on that front.
Help for Ukraine is help for Ukraine and if this admin somehow manages to actually stick with it then they'll have earned some respect on that front.

I'm not holding my breath there after what Trump and Vance had for Zelensky in the Oval Office.
 

RnR_au

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Oh wow... the twists and turns. If Trump is no longer in the game, who will Putin play?



Which is probably the best deal Ukraine could have gotten... seems its now Ukraine + Europe in the driving seat to squeeze Putin militarily and economically with whatever assistance the Americans can offer.

Man... what did Zelenskyy says in his two minutes with Trump at the Vatican? Seems to have snookered the Russians.
 

you2

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Oh wow... the twists and turns. If Trump is no longer in the game, who will Putin play?

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Which is probably the best deal Ukraine could have gotten... seems its now Ukraine + Europe in the driving seat to squeeze Putin militarily and economically with whatever assistance the Americans can offer.

Man... what did Zelenskyy says in his two minutes with Trump at the Vatican? Seems to have snookered the Russians.
Oh wait didn't Trump end this war way back the day before he took office ?
 

kage69

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EU just put another shot across Putin's bow. I love seeing news like this while Russia continues to go broke.

Western investors to receive billions in frozen Russian cash

"BRUSSELS, May 2 (Reuters) - Euroclear plans to seize and redistribute about 3 billion euros ($3.4 billion) of Russia's funds that are frozen at the Belgian clearing firm after Moscow grabbed investor cash in Russia, according to documents seen by Reuters and people familiar with the matter.
The money will be used to compensate Western investors after Moscow seized cash held in Russia in recent months, three people said, escalating attempts by both sides to recoup billions in funds affected by the war in Ukraine."


Reciprocity that was overdue, suck it down Putain.
 

kage69

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This is great. There’s no way to jam these things.

Supposedly they have one with 41km of range? Damn that's a big coil.

I guess Russia is getting all of it's fiber from China now, AFU hit the only place where they roll their own a couple weeks ago. Orcs are still also extremely short on skilled operators, whereas Ukraine has 10s of thousands of them. Going to be a rough Sommer for the Russians.
 
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kage69

Lifer
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Oh wow... the twists and turns. If Trump is no longer in the game, who will Putin play?

View attachment 123077

Which is probably the best deal Ukraine could have gotten... seems its now Ukraine + Europe in the driving seat to squeeze Putin militarily and economically with whatever assistance the Americans can offer.

Man... what did Zelenskyy says in his two minutes with Trump at the Vatican? Seems to have snookered the Russians.

The body language of everyone there said a lot I thought. You could tell Trump, the attention whore obsessed with being popular, wasn't comfortable seeing the tiny guy be the "Big Man on Campus." I'd say Trump didn't like the spotlight turning to Macron and Zelenskyy greeting each other either, Macron makes him really insecure. Did you see that when they left, a relatively silent crowd started to cheer and clap when Zelenskyy came out? Trump can't compete with this rockstar.

Trump listens to Putin and ignores his own people, so I credit Zelenskyy with this progress. He basically said "See? Told you" in a way that didn't enflame Trump's toddler like feels over being wrong, but I also suspect the bitter pill went down easier due to the Russians murdering Ukrainian civilians.
 
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K1052

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Trump is going to greenlight selling military equipment to Ukraine?

IS THE FUCKING BROMANCE OVER?

NO SUCKLING OF PUTINS BALLS ANYMORE?

I DONT FUCKING BELIEVE IT.

Ukraine is still receiving weapons and munitions from the US under Biden era contracts. Ukraine also wishes to purchase 8-10 high end air defense systems, namely Patriots, with cash. So far Trump hasn't agreed to sell but if the talks collapse he might not care anymore and let it through.
 
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DZero

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Trump is going to greenlight selling military equipment to Ukraine?

IS THE FUCKING BROMANCE OVER?

NO SUCKLING OF PUTINS BALLS ANYMORE?

I DONT FUCKING BELIEVE IT.
Europe pressured him, the issue? That won't stop Trump to give Russia the weapons too
 

cytg111

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Europe pressured him, the issue? That won't stop Trump to give Russia the weapons too
Also its not over.
You want some good news to kick off the weekend?

Sorry no cookie.

Russias reach into US administration is VAST and DEEP. Tulsi is 100% a Russian asset and so much more. Alexandr Dugin as actually making the rounds in
maga sphere, Tim Pool and Tucker Carlson is 100% foreign agents etc etc.

You are losing your country in realtime here.

 

GodisanAtheist

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Trump seems to have a ~3 month attention span (global goldfish?) for any sort of international issue.

If something gets stuck in or mired, or isn't reinforcing his deal making prowess, he just drops it and moves on. We saw this with both Israel (Kushner's Annex Palestine plan) and North Korea (normalize relations and denuclearize) in his first term. We're seeing it again here with (again) Israel/Palestine and Ukraine/Russia.

I think we're looking at avoiding the worst case scenario of Trump going all in with Russia, but we're also losing the best case scenario of the US providing full support to Ukraine.

Probably entering a period of especially schizophrenic admin actions as Trump loses interest as a tug of war unfolds between Little Marco (who to his credit has been pretty consistently pro-Ukraine until he got mega cucked by Trump) who tries to wrestle influence from Gabbard and her ilk (who might as well be FSB agents in the White House).
 

hal2kilo

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This is great. There’s no way to jam these things.
Who would have thought about dragging 30km of fiber. Must be some very fine and strong stuff. Would be interesting to know what a single km of the stuff weighs. Spiders in the sky.
 
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Racan

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Who would have thought about dragging 30km of fiber. Must be some very fine and strong stuff. Would be interesting to know what a single km of the stuff weighs. Spiders in the sky.
According to this article 2.1 kg for 10 km of wire:

 
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you2

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Indus

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cytg111

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Apparently the Trump WH is starting to ok arms sales after the minerals agreement.

$310M for F-16 training, sustainment, and upgrades.

https://bsky.app/profile/tendar.bsky.social/post/3lo7opzce4k2w
What the fuck is going on at the WH? Is Trump the only UNKNOWINGLY useful agent - while the rest is on the fucking RU payroll? Gabbard must be in a pinch here lol.

Wouldnt it be something if Trump realized he was being duped by everyone lol.
 

slpaulson

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I’ve always figured Ukraine needs to play to Trump’s ego, and tell him he would be worshiped in that country if his administration does what is necessary to defeat Russia. Maybe he did finally learn that Russia is playing him and will help Ukraine.

I’m not going to hold my breath, but one can always hope.
 

Indus

Lifer
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He does seem a bit annoyed now. Some rumor that they are considering secondary sanctions on Russian oil exports but little thin right now so hard to tell if they are serious or just twisting Putin's arm some.

If AOC can somehow cajole him into giving all Americans single payer health insurance.. build the man more statues in the north than all the civil war statues currently exist in the south!
 
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RnR_au

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I think Trump is firmly on #TeamUkraine now with the resource deal signed. If Russia wins, the USA don't get anything from the signed deal. The more land Ukraine recaptures, the more resources are available to profit off.
 
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