Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

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DZero

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I see Rator Lake CPUs on Marketplace and every time - and forever - hard pass. They have zero secondary value to me and likely many.

A couple people that I know who also “know” but still want Intel for reasons went with that 12900k bundle at MC which is “fine.”

I think in the coming years there will be folks searching out 12th gen CPUs when they have instability with their 13/14th gen systems and the 12900k is going to hold its value like the 4790k, 9900K and other top end for the socket Intel CPUs which shouldn’t have happened. It should be like the 8700k, which held OK but isn’t the king.
Even Franken Boards with Alder lake processors will hold the value... and I was about to buy a system with a 13900K frankenboard... went with the 1280P to test it. I've avoided a tactical nuke...
 

DrMrLordX

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This is really funny. People simply don't want to pay more. So AM4 and LGA1700 will keep selling at current prices.
That article wasn't so much about desktop sales as it was laptops, e.g. nobody wants to buy Meteor Lake and Lunar Lake because they cost too much for what you get. Intel stuffed the channel with 10nm junk at firesale prices and people are sticking to that wherever possible.
 

Thunder 57

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I see Rator Lake CPUs on Marketplace and every time - and forever - hard pass. They have zero secondary value to me and likely many.

A couple people that I know who also “know” but still want Intel for reasons went with that 12900k bundle at MC which is “fine.”

I think in the coming years there will be folks searching out 12th gen CPUs when they have instability with their 13/14th gen systems and the 12900k is going to hold its value like the 4790k, 9900K and other top end for the socket Intel CPUs which shouldn’t have happened. It should be like the 8700k, which held OK but isn’t the king.

Probably a reason those held there value was because they were top end CPU's and Intel changes sockets (sing) like a girl changes clothes (/sing). I got good money for my Phenom II 940 because it was the top end AM2 CPU (one of only two quad cores as far as I'm aware).
 

Joe NYC

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They haven't suffered at least in the UAE. Judging by many of the posts on overclock.net, people are still hugging their 14900K PCs because "it offers the lowest possible RAM latency" and "fewest stutters" in a broad range of games (their justifications) and they bemoan that reviewers select "AMD leaning" game titles for benchmarking. They admit that there are degradation problems but they have taken steps in their BIOS to prevent that (the electrical settings etc. and what not).

I just haven't heard in normal conversations or seen anything in the local news media to suggest that Intel's reputation has been damaged. They seem to be doing OK, in the minds of people who don't really care about CPUs and tend to be more "laptop brand" loyal than CPU manufacturer loyal.

I think Intel suffered badly, but the there is some delay / inefficiency in "word of month" to spread.

Because, Intel has had the "media" in its pocket, through various forms of advertisement, "consulting", sponsorships, the news does not get out through those channels.

But if you want to look at leading edge toward mainstream (Mind Factory, Amazon, Newegg, Micro Center), Intel went from dominating to 50:50 to 1:10 or worse.

BTW, Micro Center customers have been slow to shift from Intel to AMD, but that is happening now too. When you start from overall processors -> all CPUs, there is an option to sort by "Most Popular". And currently, 8 out of top 10 are AMD CPUs.

https://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995/all-processors

The prospects for the future don't look too bright, as the the best of the new gen of processors is at #12
 
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Joe NYC

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Joe NYC

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That article wasn't so much about desktop sales as it was laptops, e.g. nobody wants to buy Meteor Lake and Lunar Lake because they cost too much for what you get. Intel stuffed the channel with 10nm junk at firesale prices and people are sticking to that wherever possible.

I remember when Exist (sp?) was still on here, I argued that Meteor Lake is too complex (with its packaging) and it will end up being too expensive (limiting its applicability). He didn't see it as a problem.

But it is turning out to be a problem. Intel's packaging raises the "floor" for the price these processors can be sold at (= no low end). And now Intel is missing the low end. The only thing that Intel sell here is Raptor Lake.
 
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Yeah, so much for people complaining about AMD's cheap (crap) packaging. It enabled them to dominate whereas Intel's superior packaging actually didn't translate to any competitive advantage.
 
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