Trump rewards criminal insurrectionist Ashleigh Babbit with $30 million of taxpayer money

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Jaskalas

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Can you name one person who has ever said "thank you" for such a reward? Would you say yes if you were offered 30 million to get shot to death today?
Your bleeding heart for those who violently broke into that building Jan 6th, tells us more than your words of denial ever will.
You have chosen your side in the civil war. And I think you know this. No further words will suffice.
 
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Lanyap

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It say's that shooting an unarmed woman isn't a good idea. She was absolutely part of a riot, and deserved to be punished for that. Would you prefer that all rioters be treated the same way? Just have the police line up and open fire?

Back on topic, Babbit wasn't rewarded, she was killed.


Babbit was shot trying to enter the Speaker's Lobby through a broken window in a door. She was warned. If she had made it through the door and approached those inside the inner chamber she would have been warned and shot. What do people like you think Babbit and the many violent insurrectionists would do in that chamber if they breached it? Sit around with their hands in their pockets shooting the breeze. The insurrectionists were violent and calling for the hanging of Mike Pence. This shoot was justified and the Babbit family should not receive anything. I would have supported other violent insurrectionists being warned and shot. And the final disgrace, trump giving them all pardons. It's amazing to me how MAGAs have little to no critical thinking skills.

"Ashli Babbitt was fatally shot on January 6, 2021, by a U.S. Capitol Police officer during the Capitol riot. She was attempting to climb through a broken window in the Speaker's Lobby, where rioters had breached a security perimeter. The officer, Lt. Michael Byrd, fired his weapon after yelling for the rioters to retreat. Babbitt was a 35-year-old Air Force veteran and QAnon supporter, according to a news report. "
 
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fskimospy

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Babbit was shot trying to enter the Speaker's Lobby through a broken window in a door. She was warned. If she had made it through the door and approached those inside the inner chamber she would have been warned and shot. What do people like you think Babbit and the many insurrectionists would do in that chamber if they breached it? Sit around with their hands in their pockets shooting the breeze. The insurrectionists were violent and calling for the hanging of Mike Pence. This shoot was justified and the Babbit family should not receive anything. I would have supported other violent insurrectionists being warned and shot. And the final disgrace, trump giving them all pardons. It's amazing to me how MAGAs have little to no critical thinking skills.

"Ashli Babbitt was fatally shot on January 6, 2021, by a U.S. Capitol Police officer during the Capitol riot. She was attempting to climb through a broken window in the Speaker's Lobby, where rioters had breached a security perimeter. The officer, Lt. Michael Byrd, fired his weapon after yelling for the rioters to retreat. Babbitt was a 35-year-old Air Force veteran and QAnon supporter, according to a news report. "
Also, not that it matters in terms of her criminal activities on 1/6, for which she 100% deserved to be shot, but she was a real piece of shit in the Air Force too. After TWELVE YEARS she was an E-4. As a point of comparison I was an E-5 after about two years. I made rank fast, but 12 year E-4 is a joke. I suspect she got busted down for misconduct as otherwise I don't know how you make it that long without getting the boot.
 

outriding

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It say's that shooting an unarmed woman isn't a good idea. She was absolutely part of a riot, and deserved to be punished for that. Would you prefer that all rioters be treated the same way? Just have the police line up and open fire?

Back on topic, Babbit wasn't rewarded, she was killed.

Do agree or disagree with the castle doctrine?
 

HomerJS

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Why do we have to go to the childish personal insults?
You made the foolish statement that Babbit was rewarded, I pointed out that she wasn't rewarded and was in fact killed. There isn't anything arguable about that statement, Babbit is absolutely dead. So it's my position that being shot to death is never a reward for the person being shot. I've been reliably informed that it's often very uncomfortable.
You inconsistencies are stunning

Crimeing is ok but no punishment if you are a white Trumper.

AB being shot is wrong but nothing to say about a POTUS opining about killing someone on 5th ave

Have a cow when the UHC CEO is killed on the streets of NYC. They very thing Trump opined doing.

Yeah AB’s family deserves 30M for the crimes of her insurrectionist daughter. Only in the mind of a MAGAT. Now you can go back to finding a black shoplifter you can sentence to 5 years in prison
 
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Indus

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Why am I paying taxes if it’s just getting squandered by sending the money to families of violent traitors? Seems like an easy target for the fake department of government efficiency.

Seriously.
 

Greenman

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I mean no. On the grounds of them being dead and everything.
That's pretty much my issue in a nutshell. Dead isn't a reward. Getting thirty million for being dead doesn't help. If there was a price to be paid for her actions, she paid it. The dead part just ruins everything after that.
I think my statement stands on it's own, Babbit wasn't given a 30 million dollar reward for her actions. The headline to this thread is false.
 
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HomerJS

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That's pretty much my issue in a nutshell. Dead isn't a reward. Getting thirty million for being dead doesn't help. If there was a price to be paid for her actions, she paid it. The dead part just ruins everything after that.
I think my statement stands on it's own, Babbit wasn't given a 30 million dollar reward for her actions. The headline to this thread is false.
If she hadn't committed a crime would 30M have been paid out?

You still failed to say if she deserved the payout?
 
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WelshBloke

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That's pretty much my issue in a nutshell. Dead isn't a reward. Getting thirty million for being dead doesn't help. If there was a price to be paid for her actions, she paid it. The dead part just ruins everything after that.
I think my statement stands on it's own, Babbit wasn't given a 30 million dollar reward for her actions. The headline to this thread is false.
I
mean thats a pretty semantic argument! She was given $30m. You can call it a reward or an award or compensation but that doesn't change the facts.
 

Greenman

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mean thats a pretty semantic argument! She was given $30m. You can call it a reward or an award or compensation but that doesn't change the facts.
That's close, but Babbit wasn't actually given the award, her family was. Dead people can't file a lawsuit, someone has to do it on their behalf on account of them being dead and all.
It is all semantics, and semantics matter. The thread tittle is inaccurate and misleading.
Trump didn't award Ashleigh Babbit anything. This statement is both semantically and factually correct.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
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That's close, but Babbit wasn't actually given the award, her family was. Dead people can't file a lawsuit, someone has to do it on their behalf on account of them being dead and all.
It is all semantics, and semantics matter. The thread tittle is inaccurate and misleading.
Trump didn't award Ashleigh Babbit anything. This statement is both semantically and factually correct.

Ashley Babbit's estate. Is that better?

Unless you're arguing her family randomly got 30 mil from us just because.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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That's close, but Babbit wasn't actually given the award, her family was. Dead people can't file a lawsuit, someone has to do it on their behalf on account of them being dead and all.
It is all semantics, and semantics matter. The thread tittle is inaccurate and misleading.
Trump didn't award Ashleigh Babbit anything. This statement is both semantically and factually correct.
Such an odd hill to choose to die on….
 

KMFJD

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it's amazing that greenman has the balls to say that they should have had restraint in this case but not in the many threads where a colored man is shot/killed on the flimsiest pretenses
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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That's close, but Babbit wasn't actually given the award, her family was. Dead people can't file a lawsuit, someone has to do it on their behalf on account of them being dead and all.
It is all semantics, and semantics matter. The thread tittle is inaccurate and misleading.
Trump didn't award Ashleigh Babbit anything. This statement is both semantically and factually correct.
The settlement came from DOJ. You are an idiot if you think Trump didn’t approve that.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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That's close, but Babbit wasn't actually given the award, her family was. Dead people can't file a lawsuit, someone has to do it on their behalf on account of them being dead and all.
It is all semantics, and semantics matter. The thread tittle is inaccurate and misleading.
Trump didn't award Ashleigh Babbit anything. This statement is both semantically and factually correct.
What were her family given the the reward for?
I agree that words are important but the thread title is pretty accurate and describes exactly what happened.
 

NWRMidnight

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That's pretty much my issue in a nutshell. Dead isn't a reward. Getting thirty million for being dead doesn't help. If there was a price to be paid for her actions, she paid it. The dead part just ruins everything after that.
I think my statement stands on it's own, Babbit wasn't given a 30 million dollar reward for her actions. The headline to this thread is false.
What was the settlement for if it wasn't an award for her ILLEGAL actions, that ultimately caused her death because she chose to be there, she chose to join the insurrection in their violant attempt to enter and harm congressional members, she chose to not head the warnings to stop, and continued to attempt to enter thru the broken window? Before answering, keep in mind, Her death was 100% her doing, as she CHOSE to be a part of a violant group of poeple with the intentions of harming congressional members and the Vice President, and chose to not head the warnings.

Oh wait, she was unarmed, that's your bullshit argument. But you are ignoring the most important fact of all, and that was that she was ultimately a threat, armed or unarmed (meaning she didn't have a physical weapon beyond her own body, but unknown at the time) joined by 1000's of other violant people who where also threats, who where trying to enter to harm congressional members and the Vice President. If she was the soul person committing these horrendious crimes, she would have been arrested, and mabye your claim of being unarmed would have a billion to one chance of being legimate, because that is the only possible way she may have not been considered a threat. but she wasn't the soul person committing this horrendious crime, she wasn't unarmed, as a person's hands and feet are a weapon, as well as she had another, more dangerous weapon: the violant mob of 1000's of people who's goal was to hange Mike Pense and take down other Congressional members, a violant mob that she was an ingrained part of by her own choice. So again, what was the settlement reward for, if it wasn't for rewarding her for her ILLEGAL actions that where 100% of her own doing and choosing? What was the other option beside shooting her after she ignored the warnings, wait for her and other's to enter, offer them coffee and donuts, and hand cuff them AFTER they injured or killed Pense and other congressional members? is that why you feel it was a wrongful death, because they didn't offer coffee and donuts, and that is why the family ultimately recieved 30 Million?

The settlement reward wasn't because she is dead, the reward wasn't because it was a wrongful death, the reward wasn't because her family deserved it because the death was unjust. The reward was 100% a reward for her actions by the very person who she was committing the crime for, and ultimately gave her life for, and that person is Trump. It really isn't even a settlement reward.. it's a fucking payoff.
 
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