The only biases are your own dude.
You linked Tariffs and economy with genitalia and immigration.
No one else did unless you can present evidence the contrary.
From the framing and tone of this post, and evidenced by the immediate reply and the very post above this one by Indus, its apparent that you and your cohort here dont want objective, civil discussion, but an echo chamber to continue to personally insult me and encourage other hateful individuals to personally insult and attack me instead of addressing the points I made.
This thread is yet more evidence of why the Democratic party has failed so badly in its message that its only pitch to pull in the voter is "We're against Trump!". This is why this country is on the outs-- ignorant, hateful people willing to die or kill than look for actual solutions if there is any possibility that it doesnt align with own preconceived notions. Truth doesnt matter, logic doesnt matter, only feelings matter. If you are ever ready for actual, civil discussion, you may PM me and I'll make a thread to address these issues that isnt designed with such blatant bias from the get go.
From the framing and tone of this post, and evidenced by the immediate reply and the very post above this one by Indus, its apparent that you and your cohort here dont want objective, civil discussion, but an echo chamber to continue to personally insult me and encourage other hateful individuals to personally insult and attack me instead of addressing the points I made.
This thread is yet more evidence of why the Democratic party has failed so badly in its message that its only pitch to pull in the voter is "We're against Trump!". This is why this country is on the outs-- ignorant, hateful people willing to die or kill than look for actual solutions if there is any possibility that it doesnt align with own preconceived notions. Truth doesnt matter, logic doesnt matter, only feelings matter. If you are ever ready for actual, civil discussion, you may PM me and I'll make a thread to address these issues that isnt designed with such blatant bias from the get go.
How do you suppose things get done?blaming it on the lack of a border bill is just lame.
What did he do for unions again? Serious question. All I can remember is the railroad strike situation which I wouldn't call a win.If anything Biden was too far right..
on just about everything except unions.
OMG DUDE THE WHINING. SHUT THE FUCK UP. WEEE WEEEE WEEE. SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.From the framing and tone of this post, and evidenced by the immediate reply and the very post above this one by Indus, its apparent that you and your cohort here dont want objective, civil discussion, but an echo chamber to continue to personally insult me and encourage other hateful individuals to personally insult and attack me instead of addressing the points I made.
This thread is yet more evidence of why the Democratic party has failed so badly in its message that its only pitch to pull in the voter is "We're against Trump!". This is why this country is on the outs-- ignorant, hateful people willing to die or kill than look for actual solutions if there is any possibility that it doesnt align with own preconceived notions. Truth doesnt matter, logic doesnt matter, only feelings matter. If you are ever ready for actual, civil discussion, you may PM me and I'll make a thread to address these issues that isnt designed with such blatant bias from the get go.
Executive order. For those who think it is a horrible, evil thing because that is how Trump runs the government, Biden did it too, towards the end of his term (like I already explained) but it was far too late, and they couldn't really use it as a campaign platform, because the obvious question was "Why didnt you do it 2 or 3 years earlier then?" Obviously the damage had been done already, and Biden would have actually been better off to have done nothing. At least then the Dems could have continued to blame Trump for torpedoing the border bill. As it turned out, the action was actually the worst of both worlds. It was too late to change the perception that the Dems were weak on the border, and it made them look like liars, because they could have, and in fact did, do something without the border bill.How do you suppose things get done?
Executive order. For those who think it is a horrible, evil thing because that is how Trump runs the government, Biden did it too, towards the end of his term (like I already explained) but it was far too late, and they couldn't really use it as a campaign platform, because the obvious question was "Why didnt you do it 2 or 3 years earlier then?" Obviously the damage had been done already, and Biden would have actually been better off to have done nothing. At least then the Dems could have continued to blame Trump for torpedoing the border bill. As it turned out, the action was actually the worst of both worlds. It was too late to change the perception that the Dems were weak on the border, and it made them look like liars, because they could have, and in fact did, do something without the border bill.
What I see is that when two people have opinions that are irreconcilably incompatible and statements affirming one of their opinions is taken by the other as proof of wrongness regardless of which side makes them, then perhaps whatFrom the framing and tone of this post, and evidenced by the immediate reply and the very post above this one by Indus, its apparent that you and your cohort here dont want objective, civil discussion, but an echo chamber to continue to personally insult me and encourage other hateful individuals to personally insult and attack me instead of addressing the points I made.
This thread is yet more evidence of why the Democratic party has failed so badly in its message that its only pitch to pull in the voter is "We're against Trump!". This is why this country is on the outs-- ignorant, hateful people willing to die or kill than look for actual solutions if there is any possibility that it doesnt align with own preconceived notions. Truth doesnt matter, logic doesnt matter, only feelings matter. If you are ever ready for actual, civil discussion, you may PM me and I'll make a thread to address these issues that isnt designed with such blatant bias from the get go.
Most of the Trump border playbook is illegal or immoral, and was already tossed by federal courts in his first term. The only reason he got away with it in the final year was COVID was dropped into his lap, and he asserted Title 42 to close migrant processing down. Note that Biden didn't immediately revoke Title 42; he waited until the pandemic officially ended (although that was partly a political consideration).Executive order. For those who think it is a horrible, evil thing because that is how Trump runs the government, Biden did it too, towards the end of his term (like I already explained) but it was far too late, and they couldn't really use it as a campaign platform, because the obvious question was "Why didnt you do it 2 or 3 years earlier then?" Obviously the damage had been done already, and Biden would have actually been better off to have done nothing. At least then the Dems could have continued to blame Trump for torpedoing the border bill. As it turned out, the action was actually the worst of both worlds. It was too late to change the perception that the Dems were weak on the border, and it made them look like liars, because they could have, and in fact did, do something without the border bill.
Much of the controversy centered on a section of the bill that would have provided emergency authority to the administration to “summarily remove” people who cross into the U.S. illegally between ports of entry, even if they are seeking asylum. While Trump argues that presidents already have that authority, the fact is that when he tried to exercise that kind of authority, the courts blocked him.
one cannot attempt to fix this kind of skull fuckery. he is beyond redemption.From the framing and tone of this post, and evidenced by the immediate reply and the very post above this one by Indus, its apparent that you and your cohort here dont want objective, civil discussion, but an echo chamber to continue to personally insult me and encourage other hateful individuals to personally insult and attack me instead of addressing the points I made.
This thread is yet more evidence of why the Democratic party has failed so badly in its message that its only pitch to pull in the voter is "We're against Trump!". This is why this country is on the outs-- ignorant, hateful people willing to die or kill than look for actual solutions if there is any possibility that it doesnt align with own preconceived notions. Truth doesnt matter, logic doesnt matter, only feelings matter. If you are ever ready for actual, civil discussion, you may PM me and I'll make a thread to address these issues that isnt designed with such blatant bias from the get go.
one cannot attempt to fix this kind of skull fuckery. he is beyond redemption.
Yea, you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Not to mention that this disruptor promised to solve all your problems: bring down prices, stop immigration, punish those pesky gays, trans and minorities, bring peace to Israel and Ukraine, and most important of all, give you back plastic straws and showers with more water. Well, to all the Hispanics who switched to Trump, hope you are happy with your compatriots being deported to third world prisons without due process, you voted for this. Same for the Palestine (Hamas) supporters who refused to come out and vote for "Genocide Joe", or his extension Harris. Have a nice visit to Trump Tower Gaza. And to all the seniors who believed social security and medicare were not going to be decimated, good luck.Biden was a classic center right institutionalist, and that's what fucked him.
He thought the American people wanted a guy that was going to keep his head down, respect the process, and get shit done the old fashioned way.
He didn't realize the American people actually wanted a disruptor, a showman, a guy that was going to burn the system to the ground.
The actual policies don't mean anything.
If you're working your ass off and not getting anywhere and shits more expensive and you are infected by hopelessness at bettering your life... Then you want disruption without considering that disruption can actually make your circumstances worse (as we are seeing play out).
No, he was too far right on those as well. I remember well how he and the rest of the Dems joined hands with Republicans in using the power of federal government to force a bad deal on the railroad workers and prevented them from being able to strike. Which should be their RIGHT to do.If anything Biden was too far right..
on just about everything except unions.
On the plus side, if we ever have free and fair elections again, the ground is absolutely primed for Americans to actually elect a leftist/socialist (if the Democrats allow it, or even more plausibly if the Republicans can't stop it).
I think as people get fucked in the ass harder and harder by a system that clearly does not give a fuck about them, they more and more willing they will be to throw their hat in for some firebrand "eat the rich" disruptor without the same consideration for the traditional baggage being labeled a socialist normally carries.
yeah I don't get the optimism either. Rubes have been voting GOP for decades to get their juicy trickle-down, and all they actually get are golden showers.Not sure how that could happen with unlimited corporate funding of both sides. Because elections are still fought with money.
The might have different corporations, but it's still corporations.
It's pretty much corporatocracy either way, and of course the billionaires that control them.
Are you suggesting AOC will be POTUS?The pendulum is gonna swing far left at AOC. History has shown that is what has happens when you swing it too far one direction. Which i’m fine with. Love me some AOC.
I can dream. But throughout history when the pendulum swings to far one direction, we usually get an over correct and swing far the other way. Bernie is too old to probably run. AOC makes the most sense on the correct leftAre you suggesting AOC will be POTUS?
All I wanted for Christmas was to celebrate a Kamala victory and I was bitterly disappointed and it's only gotten worse and worse and worse. A swing in the opposite direction, hopefully with at least equal force, would please me no end.
Nah, the ship is listing so far to the right, the pendulum never even swings back to center.I can dream. But throughout history when the pendulum swings to far one direction, we usually get an over correct and swing far the other way. Bernie is too old to probably run. AOC makes the most sense on the correct left
Given your lack of willingness to engage with valid refutations of your claims, this post is a joke.From the framing and tone of this post, and evidenced by the immediate reply and the very post above this one by Indus, its apparent that you and your cohort here dont want objective, civil discussion, but an echo chamber to continue to personally insult me and encourage other hateful individuals to personally insult and attack me instead of addressing the points I made.
This thread is yet more evidence of why the Democratic party has failed so badly in its message that its only pitch to pull in the voter is "We're against Trump!". This is why this country is on the outs-- ignorant, hateful people willing to die or kill than look for actual solutions if there is any possibility that it doesnt align with own preconceived notions. Truth doesnt matter, logic doesnt matter, only feelings matter. If you are ever ready for actual, civil discussion, you may PM me and I'll make a thread to address these issues that isnt designed with such blatant bias from the get go.
Biden was a classic center right institutionalist, and that's what fucked him.
He thought the American people wanted a guy that was going to keep his head down, respect the process, and get shit done the old fashioned way.
He didn't realize the American people actually wanted a disruptor, a showman, a guy that was going to burn the system to the ground.
The actual policies don't mean anything.
If you're working your ass off and not getting anywhere and shits more expensive and you are infected by hopelessness at bettering your life... Then you want disruption without considering that disruption can actually make your circumstances worse (as we are seeing play out).
Your integrity is a joke. Nobody has refuted the fact (its not just a claim) of the Biden admins terrible immigration enforcement policy. Just keep drinking your own kool-aid and carry on with your delusion.Given your lack of willingness to engage with valid refutations of your claims, this post is a joke.