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pcgeek11

Lifer
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So how many careless accidents resulted in jet losses during Biden's 4 years; it has only taken Trump's navy a few months to see 3 jets carelessly loss @ sea..... what is going on that is happening this sort of sloppiness; did they lay off too many 'good' pilots or is it just coincident ?


Careless. Hardly.
Moving and landing jets at high speed on a moving carrier is dangerous and unforgiving. As I understand it on the first one it was being towed by a tractor that the driver lost control of and it went over with the tractor (pilot not involved). The latest one was a failure in the arresting cable system (pilot also not involved). Hard to stop without an arresting cable.

But I think we can all agree that a jet roaring in hot being buffeted by the wind attempting to land on a postage stamp moving away from them that is bobbing and weaving with the ocean current has to be pretty damn challenging to put it mildly. Huge pucker factor!

That is why they record and evaluate every landing on a carrier.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Careless. Hardly.
Moving and landing jets at high speed on a moving carrier is dangerous and unforgiving. As I understand it on the first one it was being towed by a tractor that the driver lost control of and it went over with the tractor (pilot not involved). The latest one was a failure in the arresting cable system (pilot also not involved). Hard to stop without an arresting cable.

But I think we can all agree that a jet roaring in hot being buffeted by the wind attempting to land on a postage stamp moving away from them that is bobbing and weaving with the ocean current has to be pretty damn challenging to put it mildly. Huge pucker factor!

That is why they record and evaluate every landing on a carrier.

How come that never happened with Tammy Schultz but it does to the MAGA incels?

They just don't make pilots like they used to I guess.. too many MAGA incels just selected because of Y chromosome and skin tone and absolutely nothing else.. not even IQ.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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How come that never happened with Tammy Schultz but it does to the MAGA incels?

They just don't make pilots like they used to I guess.. too many MAGA incels just selected because of Y chromosome and skin tone and absolutely nothing else.. not even IQ.

Loss of planes and men has always been an issue on Aircraft Carriers....

Life at sea has many dangers...

Look and see how many people get sucked into jet intakes.

This one lived, most don't.

 
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you2

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Careless. Hardly.
Moving and landing jets at high speed on a moving carrier is dangerous and unforgiving. As I understand it on the first one it was being towed by a tractor that the driver lost control of and it went over with the tractor (pilot not involved). The latest one was a failure in the arresting cable system (pilot also not involved). Hard to stop without an arresting cable.

But I think we can all agree that a jet roaring in hot being buffeted by the wind attempting to land on a postage stamp moving away from them that is bobbing and weaving with the ocean current has to be pretty damn challenging to put it mildly. Huge pucker factor!

That is why they record and evaluate every landing on a carrier.
But is it not unusual to suffer the loss of three air-crafts in such a short period of time?
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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But is it not unusual to suffer the loss of three air-crafts in such a short period of time?


May be rare, but I also feel sure it isn't the first time. I saw nothing irresponsible listed as a cause. Except for the human error with friendly fire. I was mistaken about the tractor dragging the jet off the deck. Both the mishaps onboard the carrier were from the arresting cable system failing during a landing. During one of these losses a Tow Tractor was also lost over the side. The third loss was a Friendly Fire incident. The biggest cause of alarm here is the Friendly Fire downing a jet.

Arrestment System Failures:
The first two Super Hornet losses involved failures in the arrestment system, which uses cables to stop the aircraft upon landing. In one instance, a tow tractor also went overboard during the same incident. The exact cause of the arrestment failures is under investigation, but it's clear that the system didn't work as intended, causing the jets to go overboard.

Friendly Fire:
In December, a Super Hornet was shot down by the USS Gettysburg in what the Navy described as a friendly fire incident. The jet was on a refueling mission when it was mistakenly targeted.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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pmv

Lifer
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He's sounding more-and-more like "El Commadante" in Bananas.
From this day on, the official language of San Marcos will be Swedish. Silence! In addition to that, all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half-hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside so we can check. Furthermore, all children under 16 years old are now... 16 years old!
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
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Meanwhile, i just completed my yearly conduct guidelines module that explained gifts are strictly forbidden
Yea, the good old days when to have access to government computers required a yearly security training/quiz. I think that's probably still the protocol, but you wouldn't know it with the stuff that keeps coming out about this admin's practices.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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I’m really hoping the next president takes the plane and donates it to FEMA or something similar and cites the emoluments clause. In normal times, a gift from a foreign country, any country, to a US president becomes property of the US and not the president himself. If Trump gets to keep it for personal use and used tax payer money to upgrade it, I will have to resort to violence against any maga or Republican who even so much as whispers about government fraud and abuse.
 

eelw

Lifer
Dec 4, 1999
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Its so fucking brazen you almost gotta respect the gangsta. Capone got nothing on this fool. Shitlol.
His loyalty was through fear and intimidation. Not sure why MAGAtards are such orange butt kissers though. Loyalty is one way. He’ll dispose of you once you’re no longer of use.
 
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(On the Trump meme coin story)

The NYT employs the most credulous reporters. "Please hand over your wallet for a wallet inspection."
 

fskimospy

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(On the Trump meme coin story)

The NYT employs the most credulous reporters. "Please hand over your wallet for a wallet inspection."
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The most disturbing/annoying part of that is Lipton, a very senior NYT reporter, apparently does not know what corruption is. You 100% do not need a provable quid pro quo for it to be corruption.

For example I wonder what Lipton's employer would say if he covered Qater as part of his job and he accepted a $400 million jet from them, even if there was no promise of favorable coverage. Actually, I don't. He would be fired.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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What Trump also doesn't understand is that in the past, European countries may have looked towards US defense contractors, but will now do things domestically instead.

It's already happening. Euro defense companies' stock is soaring while US companies are tanking.

Trump: "stop being dependent on the US for defense!"
Europe: "ok"
Trump: "NO NOT LIKE THAT!"
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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The Trump actions against the Houthi have been both super ineffective and very expensive. Which is why they have recently announced we are giving up lol.

Like, what are we even getting in exchange for universal health care and education when we can't even turn these people into smoking craters whenever they try to sink an oil tanker?
 
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