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Panino Manino

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While the bandwagoners do the equivalent of the Top Gear Oh no! Anyway meme, Steve's team is committed to a exposing Nvidia's decades long behaviors -


"Gamers, rise up!"

Good luck, all this is probably have the effect of Jensen buying one less leather jacked during the holy day.
 
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Hail The Brain Slug

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"Gamers, rise up!"

Good luck, all this is probably have the effect of Jensen buying one less leather jacked during the holy day.
I feel like this effort is too little, too late. Their oppressive, anti-consumer, anti-competitive tactics should have been on full display and constantly criticized by the tech media over the years. Instead it always gets swept under the rug, forgotten the next day, completely ignored on the next review cycle.

Personally it took me until Turing's announcement to really start to notice everything they were doing. I've been a strong anti-nvidia voice ever since, but most people don't care and don't want to hear or think about it and just go "it's business, everyone does stuff like that" and hand-wave away their personal responsibility as a consumer to care about their own best self-interest.
 

gorobei

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I feel like this effort is too little, too late. Their oppressive, anti-consumer, anti-competitive tactics should have been on full display and constantly criticized by the tech media over the years. Instead it always gets swept under the rug, forgotten the next day, completely ignored on the next review cycle.

Personally it took me until Turing's announcement to really start to notice everything they were doing. I've been a strong anti-nvidia voice ever since, but most people don't care and don't want to hear or think about it and just go "it's business, everyone does stuff like that" and hand-wave away their personal responsibility as a consumer to care about their own best self-interest.
nv has spent decades hosing money on pr and that has built a sizeable mindset that is hard to break, but so did intel and look where they are now.

if nv gets as lazy or oblivious as intel did and fumble enough product cycles then sentiments can change. the big question is did nv screw the prediction on tsmc's next node arriving on time at a low enough price for the green tax (forcing them to make a 40X0++) or did they just decide to punt on 50X0 series because they dont care?

nv can probably recover with a good 60X0 series at a not astronomical price, and consumers will probably go back to status quo. but sometimes all it takes is a little awareness to change buying patterns.

i remember back in the late 2000's when nv released a driver that actually killed people's gpu and the official pr was that they werent going to cover it. that gave me pause. when they screwed BFG into bankruptcy i lost a free lifetime warranty upgrade for my soldergate 9800gtx that failed. after that i stopped buying nv. with the gpp scandal, the direct selling to miners during the crypto boom, the absurdly premature pushing of RT, 12vHighFail cable, and the general unapologetic ngreedia tax attitude; i stopped even considering nv.

new generations will not have heard or experienced all those things, but they will remember each time nv releases an overpriced stinker. all we can do is remind people of all the crap nv has pulled and educate them on what actually constitutes a good product. 50X0 on the same node as 40X0 is never going to be a "next gen" product, especially at a higher price.
 

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or did they just decide to punt on 50X0 series because they dont care?
All signs point to this being the case. It is both a lackluster and unprecedented disaster of a generation. It coming at a time when gaming is the lowest share of revenue it has ever been, is no coincidence.

They have decided to bribe, strong arm, and advertise their way through it...again.
 

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Therein lies the problem -



I can't even include myself. I bought an open box $140 3040ti 6GB.

The last Nvidia card I considered was a 1060 6GB. I got the RX 480 8GB instead. The last one I actually owned was the amazing 8800GT. What I find amazing is that even when AMD/ATi clearly had the far better cards Nvidia still held on to its market share lead. That shows you what kind of mindshare they have over their zombies.
 
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Did any past case hurt their profits?
The payout on the class action over the GTX 970 did. If you search this forum, you can find shills defending them for it too. It's what they do; provide trinkets and NDA access in exchange for astroturfing and gaslighting. Worse yet, many do it for free because their amygdala is too big. Over a decade later we see the fruit it bore, and it is bountiful. AMD fumbling, bumbling, stumbling, most of the time, sealed the deal.
 
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The last Nvidia card I considered was a 1060 6GB. I got the RX 480 8GB instead. The last one I actually owned was the amazing 8800GT. What I find amazing is that even when AMD/ATi clearly had the far better cards Nvidia still held on to its market share lead. That shows you what kind of mindshare they have over their zombies.

Same everywhere isn't it? AMD has had better desktop and server cpu's for years now but Intel still have the market share.

Apple's phones aren't that great imo, but Apple have managed to brainwash an entire generation (gen z) to think only poor people use Androids.
 

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What might help explain this push, though, is Nvidia’s seeming need to make its founder’s new vision for gaming into a reality. At CES 2025, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang kicked off a huge debate about “fake frames” among PC gamers when he suggested they were the future of graphics — effectively, that the idea your game should draw each and every scene 60, 120, or more times per second will seem antiquated. That AI not only can, but should fill in the gaps.

It’s not so far-fetched an idea: as my colleague Tom Warren noted in January, “so much of modern gaming is already ‘fake,’ and it has been for years.” That might be why Nvidia has been so pushy about reviewers adding such comparisons to their reviews. (Nvidia has even bugged us to include MFG results in our AMD reviews, a request we’ve largely ignored.)


https://www.theverge.com/pc-gaming/672637/nvidia-rtx-5060-review-meddling-gamersnexus-wake-up-call


Here are the tactics that Nvidia reportedly just used to throw us off the 5060’s true scent, as individually described by GamersNexus, VideoCardz, Hardware Unboxed, GameStar.de, Digital Foundry, and more:

  • Nvidia decided to launch its RTX 5060 on May 19th, when most reviewers would be at Computex in Taipei, Taiwan, rather than at their test beds at home.
  • Even if reviewers already had a GPU in hand before then, Nvidia cut off most reviewers’ ability to test the RTX 5060 before May 19th by refusing to provide drivers until the card went on sale. (Gaming GPUs don’t really work without them.)
  • And yet Nvidia allowed specific, cherry-picked reviewers to have early drivers anyhow if they agreed to a borderline unethical deal: they could only test five specific games, at 1080p UPSCALED resolution, with fixed graphics settings, against two weaker GPUs (the 3060 and 2060 Super) where the new card would be sure to win.
  • In some cases, Nvidia threatened to withhold future access unless reviewers published apples-to-oranges benchmark charts showing how the RTX 5060’s “fake frames” MFG tech can produce more frames than earlier GPUs without it.
 
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