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Indus

Lifer
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The idea that massive systemic fraud is being perpetrated by medicaid and food aid recipients is going to end up like all the Trump voting fed workers who are getting canned going "Yes absolutely many people need to be fired for efficiency but I didn't know they were talking about MEEEEEE!"

I'd absolutely love it if the next few dem administrations instead of building something set out to destroy America and especially the Red States for fun.

Because anything other than that.. and it'll just repeat endlessly.

Yes it's evil but it's necessary evil! You have to show them what happens when you fuck around and find out.. not fuck around and nothing happens because the left is so forgiving.

4 years of calling every hurricane, every flood, every tornado fake news will be a nice start!
 
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Brovane

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The idea that massive systemic fraud is being perpetrated by medicaid and food aid recipients is going to end up like all the Trump voting fed workers who are getting canned going "Yes absolutely many people need to be fired for efficiency but I didn't know they were talking about MEEEEEE!"

I am just counting the days until the Trump voters getting food benefits are told at the supermarket they can no longer purchase sugary foods and energy drinks.
 

Indus

Lifer
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I am just counting the days until the Trump voters getting food benefits are told at the supermarket they can no longer purchase sugary foods and energy drinks.

Already the case with OTC cards.. rotisserie chicken works but no ice cream, no sodas, no energy drinks.
 

fskimospy

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I am looking forward to the increased SALT deduction limit.

However I am concerned about the financing of these tax cuts via deficit spending.
Assuming it stays in I pay about $20k/year in state and local tax so this would put an extra ~$2k or so a year in my pocket as compared to current law. (I live in a cooperative building so I don't pay property tax directly)

I absolutely do not need the money so basically Republicans are lining my pockets with money that would have been used to treat sick poor people. Pretty gross.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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I am looking forward to the increased SALT deduction limit.

However I am concerned about the financing of these tax cuts via deficit spending.
Assuming it stays in I pay about $20k/year in state and local tax so this would put an extra ~$2k or so a year in my pocket as compared to current law. (I live in a cooperative building so I don't pay property tax directly)

I absolutely do not need the money so basically Republicans are lining my pockets with money that would have been used to treat sick poor people. Pretty gross.

We need to start saying FYGM to the voters that voted for this.. oh and TY btw
 

Brovane

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Assuming it stays in I pay about $20k/year in state and local tax so this would put an extra ~$2k or so a year in my pocket as compared to current law. (I live in a cooperative building so I don't pay property tax directly)

I absolutely do not need the money so basically Republicans are lining my pockets with money that would have been used to treat sick poor people. Pretty gross.

I know the SALT limit was put in place to specifically target Blue States by Republicans. Especially when they didn't put inflation adjustment into the SALT limit.
I would rather have had all of Trump's tax cuts from his 1st term expire, but that is just me.
 
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VRAMdemon

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Watch world leaders just start avoiding him, declining meetings and phoning it in.

Trump claims white farmers were buried on the roadside, one after the other, subject to fast moving automobiles rushing by.

The fact that he took this ridiculous idea as fact and repeated it without question is evident that he is in fact the dumbest person to hold the presidency in the modern era.

Trump/MAGA are so desperate to be victims that they invented a genocide.

Never forget the tragedy of the Bowling Green massacre.
 

fskimospy

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I know the SALT limit was put in place to specifically target Blue States by Republicans. Especially when they didn't put inflation adjustment into the SALT limit.
I would rather have had all of Trump's tax cuts from his 1st term expire, but that is just me.
Yes, it was definitely done to punish political enemies, which was apparently not more of a scandal for some baffling reason.

I am fine with ending SALT entirely BUT what bothers me isn't that my taxes went up to help more people or reduce the deficit or whatever, my taxes went up so far richer people than me could have even more money. No thanks to that one.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Broke MAGA voters have pinned me down to the floor and are forcibly stuffing money I don't need into my pockets so that they can have less healthcare. It's incomprehensible but it's happening.
When you can convince white people they're special because of their skin color you can rape them good as long as you fuck the brown people harder. Story of America for the last 400 years.
 
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Pens1566

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Glad CNN and other major media outlets nonstop discussing Tapper's book are focusing on the real issue of the former president instead of the current, senile president.

Tapper can eat a giant bag of dicks.
 

fskimospy

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Glad CNN and other major media outlets nonstop discussing Tapper's book are focusing on the real issue of the former president instead of the current, senile president.
The liberal media is at it again!

This whole thing is so stupid - nobody is voting in 2026 or 2028 (assuming we can still vote) based on if someone didn't talk enough about Joe Biden's age or whatever. Nobody.

Even worse, I can't help but notice that while the media is furiously going around trying to make Democrats do some sort of mea culpa for covering up Biden's issues as far as I can tell no one is going around asking Republicans to do some sort of mea culpa for spending years lying about Trump's attempt at a coup. Seems slightly more important!
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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The liberal media is at it again!

This whole thing is so stupid - nobody is voting in 2026 or 2028 (assuming we can still vote) based on if someone didn't talk enough about Joe Biden's age or whatever. Nobody.

Even worse, I can't help but notice that while the media is furiously going around trying to make Democrats do some sort of mea culpa for covering up Biden's issues as far as I can tell no one is going around asking Republicans to do some sort of mea culpa for spending years lying about Trump's attempt at a coup. Seems slightly more important!
Anyone still going on about Joe Biden might as well just call themselves Fox News.
 

you2

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Glad CNN and other major media outlets nonstop discussing Tapper's book are focusing on the real issue of the former president instead of the current, senile president.
I actually don't have a problem with his book; and do not understand the hostility towards him. Having said that I would like a more points on Trump administration illegal behavior - of course it has gotten so bad it is hard to decide what to cover first.

Btw you all read their attempt to block all foreign students from Harvard including those currently enrolled.
 
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I actually don't have a problem with his book; and do not understand the hostility towards him. Having said that I would like a more points on Trump administration illegal behavior - of course it has gotten so bad it is hard to decide what to cover first.
Part of the problem with the book is the timing: if things were so bad and you knew about them, why sit on it until you have a book? Part of it is, I don't think this is the conversation to be pushing when (insert everything Trump is doing). And part of it is just some of the stupidity in the reporting/framing, like the suggestion that the president would need a wheelchair if he got hurt - like no shit, that happens to older people all the time, and it's also why there is a backup president in the form of the vice president. There also didn't seem to be any strong indication that he was losing it to the degree that this book is pushing.

It's really just the complete lack of interest in covering Trump for who he really is and what he actually does/rambles about, or the fact that people in his close orbit in government are all public besties with white known white supremacists and racists and we barely hear a peep.

Btw you all read their attempt to block all foreign students from Harvard including those currently enrolled.
Yes. Just more illegal actions. And they also have canceled students GRFPs if they were going to attend Harvard (GRFP = graduate research fellowship program; very prestigious funding to win if you're a graduate student, and it follows the student). Just complete malice from the administration, who are mafia-style trying to send a message to more tuition-dependent universities to get in line. And also just totally screwing American soft power and future economic output for no reason (scientific funding and training is not something you can just flip on and off).
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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The liberal media is at it again!

This whole thing is so stupid - nobody is voting in 2026 or 2028 (assuming we can still vote) based on if someone didn't talk enough about Joe Biden's age or whatever. Nobody.

Even worse, I can't help but notice that while the media is furiously going around trying to make Democrats do some sort of mea culpa for covering up Biden's issues as far as I can tell no one is going around asking Republicans to do some sort of mea culpa for spending years lying about Trump's attempt at a coup. Seems slightly more important!

Ever thought that's the talking points for the corporate media.. start talking about MAGA talking points or get banned?
 

you2

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Apr 2, 2002
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Part of the problem with the book is the timing: if things were so bad and you knew about them, why sit on it until you have a book? Part of it is, I don't think this is the conversation to be pushing when (insert everything Trump is doing). And part of it is just some of the stupidity in the reporting/framing, like the suggestion that the president would need a wheelchair if he got hurt - like no shit, that happens to older people all the time, and it's also why there is a backup president in the form of the vice president. There also didn't seem to be any strong indication that he was losing it to the degree that this book is pushing.
It may seem like this but he explained that people weren't willing to talk to him till after the election et all. So it took him 6 months to do the research, write the book and have it published.... I listened to this tidbit and more as part of an interview on npr.

So basically while there was suspicion the extent of the issue wasn't really known. And yea it seems Biden declined rapidly the last 18 months. Part of this was probably exhaustion from the job. Still overall the only major thing Biden administration did that i disagreed with was the student loan forgiveness; it doesn't address the root issue or help those that made bad loans to buy cars of homes or cocaine. The point being is folks made bad decisions and simply forgiving the loans wasn't the right thing.

There is a bigger problem here and it needs to be tackled - of course Trump is tacking it by attempting to gut higher education (or freedom of such); so what can i saw about that.... he loves to talk about USA leadership in science et all for which he contributed zilch and then he attempts to gut it so we become a third world banana republic in the future.

Trump really should be impeached.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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Anyone still going on about Joe Biden might as well just call themselves Fox News.

I disagree. Here, the centrists are still banging on about Corbyn not opposing Brexit sufficiently. Why is it, when the centrists screw up and help the far right gain power, we all have to 'move on' and not mention it? Being a centrist means never having to take responsibility for anything, it seems.
 
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