What if the SoC was designed with desktop use in mind? Maybe it already has the required traces. Maybe that's why it took them so long to get right. They looked at the history of RAM market and thought, DRAM keeps getting oversupplied and then prices drop too much. Most people don't need that much RAM. But what if we gave people a reason to want more RAM? An APU would be the perfect answer to that problem.Yes, and fairies will carry the bits from DRAM to SoC and back...
What if it wasn'tWhat if the SoC was designed with desktop use in mind
How many breakthroughs promised this kind of marketing tripe?Humanity will get closer to unlocking the real potential of computing!
No. I think the delay was caused by the prolonged negotiations with fairy labour union.Maybe that's why it took them so long to get right.
Hypothetically dual LPCAMM2 should have given the ability to have 2x128 bit modules and modularity/socketability.No. I think the delay was caused by the prolonged negotiations with fairy labour union.
On a more serious note, assuming you were able to fit Strix Halo into AM5 package, you will be bottlenecked by 2 channel DRAM setup. Unless you are able to sell me 2x64GB sticks of DDR5 able to due 16000MT/s without hassle on existing boards.
There is a reason Framework was told that socketed DRAM won't work. They could either get the BW or socketed memory, and the BW is part of the DNA of this part.
Thankfully we live in a 3 dimensional world where you can e.g. lower the height and increase width while keeping the same volume and surface area on a heatsink. Also, STX Halo doesn't need a 95W cooler.Its also 2 times thicker than any handheld.
The AYA Neo Kun supports up to 54W TDP on a form factor smaller than the Legion Go and weighing less than 1Kg.But does not fit in a handheld. You also need to consider the noise output of the small fans in constrained space.
According to ThePhawx' benchmarks, it barely gains any gaming performance above 45W. I guess past a certain point the CPU cores are simply eating the iGPU's much needed bandwidth.I am looking at the wrong thing, the Strix Halo Ryzen AI Max lineup? Because what I'm looking at says "cTDP 45-120W"
Gotta say I’m kinda disappointed at OEMs not implementing Strix Halo for more laptops. We saw no new ones at computex.
Forget handhelds, halo isn’t even coming to laptop space where it was made for.
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Sensationalist headline. No way anyone can go rogue like that without AMD taking serious action against them.
- it takes a lot more effort to design a laptop mobo with 256 bit bus.
AMD has undoubtly provided them whole MBs plans with all files so they can mod them at will, with current routing softwares it s a cakewalk to design any MB starting from any schematic, the time when things were hand drawn is over since decades, so that s not a matter of difficulty but rather of lazyness and lack of agressivity, you can be sure that once small manufacturers start to sell significant quantities the big names will follow suite.
Then again, HP is the *only* 14" class laptop (1.57kg) in wintel land which can handle serious 3D & AI (GPU RTX 3000 level perfomance) with decent batterylife. I am evaluating this for one of my customer (architect).How do you then explain 95 design wins for Lunar Lake vs. 2 design wins for Strix Halo?
Of the 2, only one was timely, the 2nd one (HP) was delayed, and all the MiniPCs (including HP) seem to be delayed.
If it is a cakewalk, how come only one - Asus - actually succeeded at this cakewalk and everyone else has failed in one way or another?
They never liked to do any hard work for Intel either. So Intel did it for them.- OEMs don't like to do any hard work, especially for AMD
AMD's Director of Product Management for Premium Mobile Client is on record for regurgitating "conventional wisdom" retardation too.The argument against MoP for the product that needs it the most are just regurgitating "conventional wisdom" retardation.
Not true even for x86.Strix Halo is way bigger than any other APU before. It is in an entirely new category (in x86 land at least), and it is a brand-new top-end pricing tier for APUs.
It's a failure because it secured 2 (two, dos, zwei) design wins on portable devices, of which only one is an actual work laptop.Yet some people are puzzled why there is not a plethora of laptop models with it yet, and conclude that now is the time to consider it a failure.
How do you then explain 95 design wins for Lunar Lake vs. 2 design wins for Strix Halo?
Of the 2, only one was timely, the 2nd one (HP) was delayed, and all the MiniPCs (including HP) seem to be delayed.
If it is a cakewalk, how come only one - Asus - actually succeeded at this cakewalk and everyone else has failed in one way or another?
Since I did not try to look very far, quoting a pcgamers review https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/handheld-gaming-pcs/ayaneo-kun-review/The AYA Neo Kun supports up to 54W TDP on a form factor smaller than the Legion Go and weighing less than 1Kg.
Also notebookcheck notes if you want to use 54W mode you have to bear with the noise https://www.notebookcheck.net/Ayane...rmance-beast-for-individualists.797526.0.htmlI also found it left the device in a rather fragile state, functionality wise. I seemed to suffer more instability and flakiness when I was switching between the 54W mode and more sensible presets. In the end I've renamed it from 'Extreme' to 'Unwise' and probably won't be using it again.
@ToTTenTranz, "bigger" in terms of CPU and GPU computing width in a single mobile package
Apropos Kaby Lake-G. Five months after it was launched by Intel, Notebookcheck wondered about the lack of laptops with it, even of announcements of laptops.
That NBC article makes another good point, Nvidia.
Strix Halo and future derivatives are competitors to Nvidias laptop SoC goals. And guess who making laptops for Nvidia later this year and into CES 2026, Lenovo, Dell and ASUS.
N1X isN1 really isn't a competitor for Strix Halo. In fact there really isn't a non-Apple competitor for it.
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So Lenovo is offering a mini pc Strix halo. My new theory is that it’s easy for OEMs to dump Halo into a mini pc and call it a day.
Laptops are different cause more of thermal, heat and noise constraints. Also battery life etc. That one HP Strix Halo laptop suffered from poor battery optimisation.