You summarised them as "two wrongs", and no reasonable person would compare say jaywalking with genocide by saying, "well, two wrongs don't make a right!", yet that is basically what you did.
LOL, talk about whitewashing it as much as possible. The CEO isn't "anyone employed by the company", they're the one who green-lights the major policy decisions, the person where the buck ultimately stops.
In a fully just and functional justice system, doing the kinds of things that American health insurance companies do on a regular basis should be straight-up illegal. Every time such a company dreams up a new and immoral scheme to make money, the government and justice system should be countering it. America doesn't have that counterweight, so basically these companies are getting away with mass murder because profit is held in higher esteem than morality.
It should be dangerous to risk peoples' lives in that manner, whether it's because the official justice system will catch up with you, or someone takes justice into their own hands, and as I already said, the buck ultimately stops with the CEO. If your country lacks the proper checks and balances to keep greed in check, then you should absolutely expect vigilante justice. It seems to me that you're childish enough to wag your finger at the vigilante and not the problem that caused the vigilante to take action.
Vigilantism fills in the cracks left behind by a failing justice system. Shore up the justice system and this won't happen.So your answer to this: Are you for Vigilante justice?
Is a yes. Good to know.
Vigilantism fills in the cracks left behind by a failing justice system. Shore up the justice system and this won't happen.
Two wrongs don't make it right.
Come the fuck on. I know neural plasticity is fucked at your age but surely even you at this point must begin to suspect SOMETHING. Not even a tingling?
I'll note that you haven't said anything about the allegations against UH so far, just Luigi. Who hasn't been convicted, mind you.Yeah I have an issue because I don't believe in killing people or vigilante justice. I must be the fucked up one...
And as we all know, conservatives absolutely require a conviction for someone to be truly guilty of the alleged crime.I'll note that you haven't said anything about the allegations against UH so far, just Luigi. Who hasn't been convicted, mind you.
And as we all know, conservatives absolutely require a conviction for someone to be truly guilty of the alleged crime.
Sure. At what point does it begin to resemblance self defense though?Yeah I have an issue because I don't believe in killing people or vigilante justice. I must be the fucked up one...
Sure. At what point does it begin to resemblance self defense though?
The video and evidence he had on him when he was caught pretty much tells the story.I'll note that you haven't said anything about the allegations against UH so far, just Luigi. Who hasn't been convicted, mind you.
That is a very complex moral question in my opinion. I believe that if anybody tries to kill you and it is not in their own self defense they deserve to die rather than you and if you were somehow able as an only option to kill them before they killed you I would only regret you had to have been through such an unfortunate experience. There is also the problem of judgment. When has the point been reached that all alternative solutions to saving your life have been reached. Certainly not if somebody gives you a hostile look and so on. Anybody with a chip on their shoulder might be tempted to blur that line.Yeah I have an issue because I don't believe in killing people or vigilante justice. I must be the fucked up one...
No, that isn't what I did. You twisting it into a comparison of Jaywalking and Genocide is what is insane. What I am saying is the company killing people is wrong and some asshole killing someone (Vigilante justice) is also just as wrong. I don't see where you think I am taking up for healthcare, I am not. Vigilante Justice is a very slippery slope. Maybe someone won't dream up some excuse to vigilante you for some perceived injustice.
As I understand it the punk that killed the CEO didn't even have any ties to United Health Care. He just picked this one out at random or because they are the largest in the US.
Funny how that doesn't seem to apply to our rapist in chief.The video and evidence he had on him when he was caught pretty much tells the story.
I'm not sure anyone here is applauding Luigi's act.I'm not for vigilante justice. I wouldn't in any way have the balls to pull the trigger myself, so how could I applaud others doing it? "Armchair terrorist" is not a good look.
I'm also not persuaded that engaging in that kind of thing helps matters, at all.
But that's not really the point, surely? The point is that pious moralising is a pretty weak defence against mass anger. The degree of public sympathy for Mangione surprised even me. Clearly the way the system currently works is pissing a lot of people off. Maybe that's even part of the reason why you have Trump in the White House (as perversely counter-intuitive as that seems)?
Indeed, it's tough from a moral perspective to justify punishing someone for behavior I directly benefit from.I think it's still a tough one because if his act was a catalyst for fundamental change in the system, then finding him guilty seems hypocritical. This last paragraph is something I've added only with as much consideration as it takes to type it, so I'm definitely open to counter-arguments.
Except for Donald.And as we all know, conservatives absolutely require a conviction for someone to be truly guilty of the alleged crime.
Funny how that doesn't seem to apply to our rapist in chief.
In this case it exposes you as a liar.Why does everyone try and interject Trump into every topic.
TDS