Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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zinfamous

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So German money is funding production of Long Neptune and probably Hrim-2 I guess.

Another part of the announcement sounds like Germany will probably be supplying parts and tools for Ukraine to ramp production. For his part Merz may be interested in these systems or ones developed from them for Germany eventually. With the country getting deep into the missile business lately it would make sense.

How long before Ukraine can turn Red Square into a monument to Putin's tiny-dicked hubris?
 

you2

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How long before Ukraine can turn Red Square into a monument to Putin's tiny-dicked hubris?
So far Ukraine has mostly targeted military targets which is more than we can say about Russia; though i would hope they could target training camps and similar in Russia. Ultimately the pity about this mess is the 100,000's of thousand of Ukraine wounded or killed due to one crazy piece of shit.
 
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K1052

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How long before Ukraine can turn Red Square into a monument to Putin's tiny-dicked hubris?

Moscow would certainly be in reach of the Long Neptune's reported range (1000km). There is probably interest in an even longer range version that can take approaches to distant targets that are less well defended.
 

biostud

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I doubt nations like Finland, Poland etc. have the proper logistics to send even brigade size expeditionary fighting forces to Ukraine to fight. That is the problem, the main enabler of NATO logistics was the US. Without the US support, the ability of NATO/EU to project brigade size forces into a non NATO country like Ukraine is very limited. This requires logistics that require expeditionary force capability and besides the US only UK and France have anything capable of doing this and both the UK and France are very limited. Even sending NATO airpower into a non NATO country to fight would be difficult. The USAF wouldn't have a problem doing this, they have the kit and capability to send airwings anywhere in the world and stand-up and entire airbase from scratch. The US could secure a patch of ground with the 82nd airborne and have within a week a forward deployed airbase up and operating complete with a Burger King. However a country like Finland or Denmark just don't have the capability to deploy a airwing like that without US support into a non NATO country. NATO countries have common logistics and operations so for example a country like Denmark could forward deploy a airwing to Poland if necessary fairly easily because Denmark logistic people and Polish logistics people are trained to do things the NATO way. This is a huge benefit of NATO, a common way of doing things which helps countries militaries fight together with NATO.

Despite all the rhetoric, Ukraine has manpower. What they lack is trained soldiers with weapons and training. The EU is supporting Ukraine by training Ukrainian forces inside of their countries. The only other possibility would be sending in EU technicians to help and support NATO Hardware like F-16's but it seems like Ukraine is quickly coming up to speed on those issues to.

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Although one benefit is the railroads can be used in Europe and are connected to Ukraine. The major problem for Europe is to deploy outside their railroad/land area.
 

kage69

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Did Anonymous fuck them again? I saw they got the FSB site.

Also saw this food for thought. I mean, Cadet Bonespurs was fine letting Americans die en masse, clandestine assets too, when it suited his ego. What are some Ukrainian lives against his desire to please his boss and idol?



We already know he is the single worst intelligence threat the country has ever had, I don't think the implication is outrageous.
 
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DZero

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Did Anonymous fuck them again? I saw they got the FSB site.

Also saw this food for thought. I mean, Cadet Bonespurs was fine letting Americans die en masse, clandestine assets too. What are some Ukrainian lives against his desire to please his boss and idol?



We already know he is the single worst intelligence threat the country has ever had, I don't think the implication is outrageous.
This is why Russia wants to disconnect from Internet, like the US
 

kage69

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Sweden is chipping in more cash to assist Ukraine's deep strike abilities.

"Sweden has announced a new military aid package for Ukraine totaling €441 million (approximately $500 million), which includes funding for so called Deep Strike — long-range strike capabilities used to target critical infrastructure inside Russia."


And Germany says, hold my Lowenbrau, let's make it deeper. Ja, much deeper.

"BERLIN, May 28 (Reuters) - Germany will provide further military support for Ukraine amounting to around 5 billion euros ($5.65 billion), its defence ministry said on Wednesday, as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy met senior officials in Berlin."

Great work guys!
 
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Guess what would look like an easier target to Russia when Europe is looking like a bad mofo to F with? The US, of course. Russia can probably do an overnight coup with Trump in charge.
 
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gorobei

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daily mail goes over AFU drone ship carrier for uav drones and their effect in crimea.
converted seababy platform with a covered bay for 4 uav with explosives, options for mines and kamikaze payload. using the seababy as a range extender for the fpv uav combined attacks with longer range missiles/drones to do some damage to crimea positions. footage of attacks on ru sea platforms and one daytime picture of a carrier taken out by ru defenses.

the hope is they can degrade the iads around crimea and extend their reach to hit the bridge.
 
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K1052

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Apparently Moscow won't show its memorandum for ending the war they want Ukraine's assent on actually to Ukraine. Lol.

Obvious to everyone Putin doesn't want to end the war yet or at least not until after his summer offensive.
 
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DZero

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Apparently Moscow won't show its memorandum for ending the war they want Ukraine's assent on actually to Ukraine. Lol.

Obvious to everyone Putin doesn't want to end the war yet or at least not until after his summer offensive.
Putin wants to expand the offensive. That's the issue
 

DZero

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You don't have that tattooed someplace, do you? It's like your calling card, and not just in threads about Russian invasions.
The issue is Putin, he wants to revive a time that won't return. Russia is just a country, is no longer an empire.

Putin is idiotic trying to revive that time
 
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Jaskalas

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If only assholes like Trump and Putin would have a fatal heart attack it would do everyone a lot of good.
That would have been a lot more helpful in 2021.
Russian society as a whole, from the government regime, to the military order, to the media broadcasts.
As an outsider, I see them all aligned in the sunk cost fallacy of continuing their crusade against life itself.

You can hope for a power vacuum, maybe weakening and destabilizing.
But I am not convinced anyone in Russia would voluntarily stop the pursuit of Genocide.
 

cytg111

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True.

But I do think we're fucking democracy up.

The US is choosing regime for the simple reason: Why not. If life is no better for the average American than that of the average Mobik, why the fuck would you not storm the capitol.

There is one metric that would solve all of this bs right out of the gate : Single payer.

But no. You cant even fucking do that.
 
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