Wrong, console volumes mean always semicustom.Sony could go with a Medusa Halo derived SoC that has only a single active CCD and up specced ram for their next SoC and achieve most everything that they need to. Development costs would be substantially lower, allowing for reasonable unit costs.
Halo is waayyyyy too expensive for that.MS and Valve could easily transition to using any of the white box Strix Halo uSFF desktops as the basis for a branded product, or they could just push a spec for their OS and let others choose their vendor. Either way, both get generational upgrades over existing hardware if they just go with single CCD Medusa as their platform.
That's one of the worst graphs I've ever seen. Higher bars with lower numbers lower bars with higher numbers. Either normalize or don't but mixing and unmatching is not the way to do it.View attachment 124528
Not sure what is the orginal source got it from here https://community.frame.work/t/request-verify-dgpu-support/69392/33
Still someone also tested code compilation in there
but it's a single data point, the difference in within margin of error, and the CLANG compilation results from the slide are showing 9950X with the lead I would expect
Halo today, in it's full dress, is most certainly too expensive for that.Wrong, console volumes mean always semicustom.
Halo is waayyyyy too expensive for that.
I don't think you have even the basic comprehension of console markers and their cost structures.
None of that is related to the big APU in any capacity whatsoever.This is probably good news for the halo stuff
Esp. Medusa halo
Microsoft still wants to build its own Xbox handheld in the future, but Microsoft has decided to prioritize its teams to improve Windows 11 gaming performance, specifically for devices like the ASUS partner device "Project Kennan." It's possible that the existential threat from SteamOS, which on paper delivers better gaming performance than Windows 11 itself, has informed these decisions. Our sources have indicated to us that Microsoft is still deeply investing in developing its own Xbox gaming handheld technology in the future, but it was announced internally today that the priorities are moving more deeply towards third-party OEM handhelds in the interim.
EXCLUSIVE: Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined (for now)
Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.www.windowscentral.com
I think there'll be an impactNone of that is related to the big APU in any capacity whatsoever.
100% this is the way, strix point not strong enough but Halo is king
- 1CCD 8core Halo with 3d cache
- RDNA4 32/40 cores
- pegged at 20-30w mobile
- dock mode for full 100w power
will be the ULTIMATE unbeatable handheld, fluid 1080p for everything
There is no tablet APU, premium FF swimlane is beyond dead.This gives an opening for the likes of ASUS to work with AMD for fitting in the tablet APU in a meaty handheld
Esoteric and wholly pointless.Single CCD with 3D cache for maximum gaming performance and cache hits that would alleviate the 256bit memory controller for better serving the 40CU iGPU.
Esoteric and wholly pointless.
Just don't.
No it won't.I think this would sell
Not a real market.Especially in MiniPCs.
You know you can just buy stxH. No one's stopping you.I would like to have one for my work PC. To upgrade from 5800X + 6600XT
It's... not a car that they can just "put a bigger engine into"Also Why dont they do
higher tdp
higher CUs
lower cpucores?
Like
240W
70 CUs
8core c3d
Ryzen halo 399+ MAX MAX
You know you can just buy stxH. No one's stopping you.
Also Why dont they do
higher tdp
higher CUs
lower cpucores?
Like
240W
70 CUs
8core c3d
Ryzen halo 399+ MAX MAX
No it's not.Strix Halo with full graphics, only 1 CCD + V-Cache. I think this model would be popular for Mini PCs. Same as the 9800x3d is breaking all records.
No one cares about V$ for parts with tiny mobile GPU.There is a lot of retardation among marketing types at AMD, who put together the Strix Halo configurations, by not offering the model that would sell the most units.
Just rewire it for more power! Aurgh, aurgh, aurgh!It's... not a car that they can just "put a bigger engine into"
No it's not.
Buy the halo as is.
Also NUCs are not a real market. There's a good reason Intel jettisoned that BU.
No one cares about V$ for parts with tiny mobile GPU.
The whole point of stxH is it being a bigger, fatter Strix and not something that makes your dick hard.
Nope.Overpriced Cinebench box
Nothing balanced about strapping a V$ part to a 60W mobile part.Balanced PC for work + play + AI dabbling
They don't know stxH exists.One thing to keep in mind that DIY guys are lazy and many of them are aging. The PC I described, with full Strix Halo CU count + 8 core V-Cache - would serve this market (demographics) even grow it.
MoP sucks, it's always a last ditch effort.Kind of like dropping the ball by not including MoP
Well, it seems you have really a narrow view of the Halo family if you think people buy it for CinebenchOverpriced Cinebench box
Does Halo GPU even need x3D cache, it's not terribly powerful GPU. I mean it's like 4060 equivalent if I remember correctly. Do you recommend people pair 9800x3D with 4060 for gaming? One normal CCD, with full GPU, would make more sense if you wanted to optimise for gaming, imo. It would also keep the cost lower.One thing to keep in mind that DIY guys are lazy and many of them are aging. The PC I described, with full Strix Halo CU count + 8 core V-Cache - would serve this market (demographics) even grow it.
No. But this line of thought is throw all the silicon at it for marginally more performance per watt and stacked cache would further that.Does Halo GPU even need x3D cache
In this video hardware unboxed seems to hint about new AM5 cpu coming in Q3, multiple times infact
Any ideas what could be incoming ?
Strix Halo on AM5 ?
Fire Range SKU's ?
Dual X3D CCD "9960X3D" ?
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Strix Point (or rebranded as Grogon Point) is rumored to come as Ryzen 9000G series.
Could be Gorgon Point (Zen 5 APU, to replace both Strix Point and Krackan Point in laptops in 2026), but before that released as an AM5 socketed product:Hard to say if this is the right thread to continue, but...
Computerbase reports that mainboard makers told them at Computex that CUDIMM support is coming, presumably with a new cIOD. Which datarates will be supported then is not yet fixed.
Could be Gorgon Point (Zen 5 APU, to replace both Strix Point and Krackan Point in laptops in 2026), but before that released as an AM5 socketed product:
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-pre...rgon-point-and-epyc-4005-grado-for-am5-socket (April 30)
https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-leak-mentions-ryzen-9000g-for-am5-socket (May 29 — a very very weakly supported rumor)
(but Computerbase.de picked it up despite the weak evidence, maybe they have more undisclosed info to go by) https://www.computerbase.de/news/pr...rwaehnt-die-zen-5-apu-fuer-desktop-pcs.92915/ (May 30)