Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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RnR_au

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Why don't they fix themselves instead of continuing to believe that the world is their enemy?
A large portion of the population don't believe that anything is wrong with them. I mean seriously, they are borderline Iran already...

 

Artorias

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Now imagine chinese, russian, etc. container ships packed full of thousands of drones (large and small) parked off the coasts of the US or Taiwan. Ports and coastal cities would be decimated. This is what I've been worrying about lately. But here we are thinking of spending at least a trillion on a golden dome for ballistic missiles.

Why would Ukraine release how they accomplished this mission unless it was misinformation? Now russia will be aware of that type of attack. With that said I love the fight of the Ukrainians. They are a crafty bunch.
Anti-Air flak weaponry is where investments should be made.

If the numbers are true does this affect the Russian nuclear traid?
 
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Torn Mind

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This is what I don't get. How does intelligence lead to becoming evil? What is the main reason for their messed up minds? Why don't they fix themselves instead of continuing to believe that the world is their enemy?
Intelligence has no relevence to improving morality or moral behavior. Humans have cognitive biases associating intelligence with improving morality, but it is absolutely not sustained by reality. If one wants to do ill, intellgience opens doors on how to do ill and get away with it..

In actuality , the masses are not taught the most dangerous ways reasoning and persausion can be used, because would upend any sort of law and order. Learn how to escape a crime...that's not good.
 

Brovane

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Now imagine chinese, russian, etc. container ships packed full of thousands of drones (large and small) parked off the coasts of the US or Taiwan. Ports and coastal cities would be decimated. This is what I've been worrying about lately. But here we are thinking of spending at least a trillion on a golden dome for ballistic missiles.

Why would Ukraine release how they accomplished this mission unless it was misinformation? Now russia will be aware of that type of attack. With that said I love the fight of the Ukrainians. They are a crafty bunch.

So what is the result that China and Russia would be trying to achieve? Is there intention to start a war with the US and NATO?
 

Muse

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Why? We attacked exclusively military infrastructure. Even more, we targeted not just military infrastructure but literally the “vehicles” that were directly participating in this war, shelling our cities and killing our civilians.
There is no pretext to use nuclear weapons with the possible exception of suffering attacks from nuclear weapons. Russia just got what was coming to them. They were attacking Ukrainian civilians. Planes they were using to deliver the weapons just got destroyed. This is justifiable military action.
 
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biostud

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There is no pretext to use nuclear weapons with the possible exception of suffering attacks from nuclear weapons. Russia just got what was coming to them. They were attacking Ukrainian civilians. Planes they were using to deliver the weapons just got destroyed. This is justifiable military action.
Also Russia thinks that Ukraine belongs to them, so using a nuke is basically nuking your own country.
 

balloonshark

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So what is the result that China and Russia would be trying to achieve? Is there intention to start a war with the US and NATO?
It would be an affordable and achievable way to cripple the US economy. If our major ports are damaged we can't import and in short order we would be fighting amongst ourselves for the leftovers. Half the country wants to kill the other half thanks to right wing media. Whether or not it would be worth the retaliation from the US is another question.

If we have to repel drone attacks we need an affordable solution since shooting 1 million dollar missiles at $1000 drones is not feasible in the long run. It won't be long before AI can fly these things completely autonomously so jamming wouldn't work. I'm glad I'm not the person who has to solve this problem.
 

kage69

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Anti-Air flak weaponry is where investments should be made.

If the numbers are true does this affect the Russian nuclear traid?

For drone specific stuff? Too expensive, limited by magazine, has range limitations and there are issues with down range collateral.

For dealing with true swarms of drones directed energy weapons are needed, specifically high wattage microwave emitters. THOR for instance. Cannon and SHORAD functions are always good to have for back up, but if you're talking real swarms (hundreds of drones at once) you need to be able to drop huge swathes of them immediately, not just clusters. Like a big broom, just sweep them out of the sky, that's what you want.

And yes, the Russian nuclear triad is officially limping and bleeding from the ears.
 

Jaskalas

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Also Russia thinks that Ukraine belongs to them, so using a nuke is basically nuking your own country.
They purposefully pack their men into meat waves in a war to steal more land they do not need.
After nearly 1 million casualties, trust me, "your own country" means nothing to them. Russian government does not value life.
Only thing they fear about nuking Ukraine is that we _MIGHT_ get off our asses and do something useful.
 
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zinfamous

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The special operation "Spider Web", which resulted in the SBU destroying 41 Russian strategic aviation aircraft, was in preparation for more than a year and a half.

According to our sources, this operation was exceptionally complex from a logistical standpoint. First, the SBU covertly transported FPV drones into Russia, followed by mobile wooden huts. Once inside Russian territory, the drones were concealed beneath the roofs of these huts, which were mounted on cargo trucks. At the appointed moment, the hut roofs were opened remotely, allowing the drones to fly out and strike the Russian bombers on their airfields.

We have unique photographs showing exactly how the drones were readied for the attack on the military airbases.

Sources within the SBU emphasize that everyone involved in this historic special operation has long since returned to Ukraine. Therefore, if the Putin regime stages a public arrest of someone, it will be nothing more than another show for its domestic audience.


Just pump all of this shit directly into my veins!
 

kage69

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Rather fetching, now someone get him exactly that to wear for his next Oval Office appearance.

Yep, nothing like gambling (and defense) advice from an idiot who can bankrupt casinos.

Now to see if Trump regurgitates the Kremlin propaganda that these military targets being hit is terrorism, or does he maintain the earlier cop out of Putin just suddenly, recently becoming a crazy horrible person that needs an ultimatum?
 
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Muse

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TACO ALERT: Trump's great idea for dealing with Russia is apparently do nothing.
Few days ago.

CNN Video: Trump says new Russia sanctions could hurt peace talks
Yeah, he's pretty much a pussy cat. Talks big but backs down. He's incorrigible but TACO when he's scared. Still, he's trying to kill off America's finest institutions and it's a clusterfuck.

I'm wondering if there's any way to undermine Fox News. They were sued royally not long ago. Maybe there's some way to neuter them.
 

K1052

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The meeting in Istanbul lasted an hour. Scant details but mostly sounds like they traded papers containing their positions and possibly agreed to further POW exchanges.
 
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The special operation "Spider Web", which resulted in the SBU destroying 41 Russian strategic aviation aircraft, was in preparation for more than a year and a half.

According to our sources, this operation was exceptionally complex from a logistical standpoint. First, the SBU covertly transported FPV drones into Russia, followed by mobile wooden huts. Once inside Russian territory, the drones were concealed beneath the roofs of these huts, which were mounted on cargo trucks. At the appointed moment, the hut roofs were opened remotely, allowing the drones to fly out and strike the Russian bombers on their airfields.

We have unique photographs showing exactly how the drones were readied for the attack on the military airbases.

Sources within the SBU emphasize that everyone involved in this historic special operation has long since returned to Ukraine. Therefore, if the Putin regime stages a public arrest of someone, it will be nothing more than another show for its domestic audience.

*Information not confirmed*
Additionally, some information is spreading in the russian information space claiming that russians themselves assembled the Ukrainian drones that attacked russian strategic bombers yesterday for a salary — who thought they were helping the russian army.
 

cytg111

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I know its been underway for a year plus but it is quite a coincidence that a week after we give the goahead to strike deeper into Russia proper they fucking pull this off. Cant help but contemplate if we'e been a drag on these great warriors.
 
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