Its nip it now or the good fight becomes a version of hiding Anne Frank in the addict.We know Trump & Co are evil as fuck. The problem is, we need to put up a good fight, and the issue is, the opposition party is not putting up a good fight, in fact, they helped us get here with a corrupt disgusting shady fight.
Folks need to realize, the Democratic party needs to be cleansed out or fall apart. The establishment of the Dem party gave us Senile Biden as a candidate, prevented a competitive primary to bring forth a fresh candidate, and either were covering it up or looked the other way. No way the establishment Dems in power could not see what was happening with Biden. No fucking way. I mean most of the American Democratic base literally saw Senile Biden - turns out the media was right. You know how much I hate to say the mainstream shitty media was right? Ugh, it's gross, but they were. I mean it's all out there now, and it was really all out there then too - we just had a Dem establishment Biden cult that denied it.
That is so disgusting, shameful, and should be criminal. The fact there have not been mass resignations from this corrupt and feckless establishment Democrat bureaucratic machine is astonishing. These people do not care, they lack fundamental morals. They were on the media crowing about Biden's energy and how they couldn't keep up with him and his mental acuity - and yet, the Dem establishment is just chugging along.
We know Trump & Co are evil as fuck. The problem is, we need to put up a good fight, and the issue is, the opposition party is not putting up a good fight, in fact, they helped us get here with a corrupt disgusting shady fight. And they are still doing it - shutting out actual politicians for the people for someone literally dying of cancer in the nation's biggest time of need. The fact Chuck Schumer is still the Senate minority leader should disgust anyone who is a Democrat. This is what is making politics unsustainable to follow - the party in power is pure evil, and the opposition party is just insanely corrupt and incapable. They literally shut out the only pure honest messaging talent, they do not unite behind any real message. This should insult all of you to the bone.
Then you have someone like Hogg saying reasonable things, and the establishment is after him, because they are horribly corrupt and don't really have the interest of the people at stake, just their own embedded hierarchy and consultant class incremental change shit they want to maintain at any cost. They are a huge part of the problem. They care about their establishment hierarchy and system more than they care about real systemic change. The Dems will never ever bring about the change this country needs - regardless of how fucked up the system and media are, they simply are not capable and don't really have it as a goal anyway. We'll never know if this country could have gotten on the road to be fixed because the main opposition party, the Dems, aren't fighting for that anyway. This should be plainly obvious at this point.
The Democratic party is literally complicit in Trump 2.0 to a point that they should be all categorically fired from their jobs in shame. Anyone who defends these fucknuts should be tarred and feathered. But they don't change. I had enough of Biden and Dem establishment defenders on Bluesky, and enough on here, that is why it's time for anyone not in that cult to step back - because in trying times with a terrible enemy, and with the entrenched establishment opposition party also such a big part of the problem and not willing to change a damn thing, what's the point? Vote for sure, seek out challengers to the corrupt Dems, which is at least half of them, and go about your day. Show up at some protests, but don't waste your time with the Trumpers - cause they are goners, and it turns out, the opposition party has its own version of goners, they are just another side of the problem.
I decided to watch a Daily Show today for the first time in weeks, so decided to get totally political. That's my thirty minutes of politics today. Fuck the Democrats.
I would’ve been perfectly happy with Elizabeth Warren or hell even Katie Porter as the face of the party. But one is getting to be too old and past her prime, and the other couldn’t even hold on to her seat in Congress. It sucks, because I’d rather have boring technocrats who get shit done vs. flashy, social media savvy people who primarily succeed with soundbites. Not a knock against AOC, I’m sure she’ll get much more powerful with a few more terms under her belt.Some insist that the D party is having its transformative moment right now with AOC being the face of the party.
I mean let's be real, GOP doesn't need to "suspend elections" or whatever.
They can and probably simply win outright. That's just how bad Dems are right now.
Democrats fall behind GOP in popularity: Poll
Democrats continue to trail Republicans in favorability ratings among Americans, according to the latest The Economist/YouGov poll. The poll, conducted in late May, shows the GOP with a net favorability rating of negative 11 percent, while Democrats follow 10 points behind, with a net...www.yahoo.com
AOC getting shit done with real progress is specifically suppressed by the establishment consultant corporate class Dem party. Which runs the show. The Dem party has shown it is specifically in the way of fundamental progress in a broken system and will protect their center and corporate and seniority power grabbing interests over anything else most of the time. It's easy to say AOC is just talk, meanwhile not taking into account her own party's rotten core is a big reason why that is the case.I would’ve been perfectly happy with Elizabeth Warren or hell even Katie Porter as the face of the party. But one is getting to be too old and past her prime, and the other couldn’t even hold on to her seat in Congress. It sucks, because I’d rather have boring technocrats who get shit done vs. flashy, social media savvy people who primarily succeed with soundbites. Not a knock against AOC, I’m sure she’ll get much more powerful with a few more terms under her belt.
I would’ve been perfectly happy with Elizabeth Warren or hell even Katie Porter as the face of the party. But one is getting to be too old and past her prime, and the other couldn’t even hold on to her seat in Congress. It sucks, because I’d rather have boring technocrats who get shit done vs. flashy, social media savvy people who primarily succeed with soundbites. Not a knock against AOC, I’m sure she’ll get much more powerful with a few more terms under her belt.
AOC getting shit done with real progress is specifically suppressed by the establishment consultant corporate class Dem party. Which runs the show. The Dem party has shown it is specifically in the way of fundamental progress in a broken system and will protect their center and corporate and seniority power grabbing interests over anything else most of the time. It's easy to say AOC is just talk, meanwhile not taking into account her own party's rotten core is a big reason why that is the case.
This never-was is going to run for President, isn't he?I wish Tim Walz would punch out Schumer, Pelosi, Schiff, Biden, and like another of the top 100 Dem establishment corrupt pieces of shit.
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, in South Carolina remarks, calls on Democrats 'to be a little meaner'
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz has keynoted the Democratic state conventions in South Carolina. The party’s 2024 vice presidential nominee is working to keep up the high national profile he gained when Kamala Harris selected him as her running mate.apnews.com
They're such a trash party, would rather lose to Trump and lose the republic than move left to meet their base. And then they wonder why we don't show out to vote for them when they try to show how far right they can move to appease corporations and try to peel off ungettable GOP voters. Love this segment where Kyle Kulinski shreds them for wanting to run on the neoliberal abundance platform so many of the DNC cult here post while the base clearly wants them to run on a platform that correctly points out our prosperity has been stolen away by the billionaire ruling class.AOC getting shit done with real progress is specifically suppressed by the establishment consultant corporate class Dem party. Which runs the show. The Dem party has shown it is specifically in the way of fundamental progress in a broken system and will protect their center and corporate and seniority power grabbing interests over anything else most of the time. It's easy to say AOC is just talk, meanwhile not taking into account her own party's rotten core is a big reason why that is the case.
Good God lets hope not. If he is the best the Dems can do for 28, then Squished may be correct; the Dems are totally politically bankrupt. Please, please dont let him anywhere close to a national ticket in any future election, especially the presidential ticket in 28. Personally, I would much prefer an alternative choice for the Dem governor candidate in MN for 2026 as well, but I think Walz is firmly entrenched in the political machine in MN, so he will probably be the nominee. He should just quietly disappear from the political landscape and quit making a fool of himself.This never-was is going to run for President, isn't he?
They're such a trash party, would rather lose to Trump and lose the republic than move left to meet their base. And then they wonder why we don't show out to vote for them when they try to show how far right they can move to appease corporations and try to peel off ungettable GOP voters. Love this segment where Kyle Kulinski shreds them for wanting to run on the neoliberal abundance platform so many of the DNC cult here post while the base clearly wants them to run on a platform that correctly points out our prosperity has been stolen away by the billionaire ruling class.
Detached from reality is thinking the status quo neoliberalism that has lost elections to Bush twice and Trump twice is the direction to keep going. Running on I'm not Trump is a loser and Biden only won because Trump had just killed a million Americans with his pandemic response.Kyle reposts funny memes but that's the extent of his political instincts.
Progressives have a hard enough time winning their own local/state elections. Someone like AOC would get crushed nationally. For every extra college kid or Starbucks barista she would turn out, you would lose 2 indies.
You have to go to where the voters are, and stop trying to force this narrative of "voters want progressives." For all his faults, Trump is still polling 45-47% and even ABOVE WATER on immigration, depending on what poll you look at. Clearly there is no widespread rejection of this ideology. Yet all of a sudden voters are going to flock to AOC?
This is detached from reality.
I mean look at 2020 and even after all that first term chaos, Biden barely won across a few battleground states. People still clinging to this idea that Trump isn't popular or that Trumpism can't win elections. Even sadder is people still clinging to the myth of American exceptionalism, or that we have any honor left. No, a lot of the country is more than OK with this. Accept that.
That is really a depressing thought. Not sure any of those can win in 28. There is still a lot of time left though, so maybe someone will emerge from the background. Maybe someone like Clinton, but able to keep it in his pants. I fear the right wing media and social media have so convinced the voters that the Dems caused all the problems (real, overblown, or totally imaginary) in our country that anyone prominent in the Dem party during the Biden years has been permanently tainted. I agree though, a centrist is needed, not some far left Progressive that a few posters on this forum dream about. As you correctly pointed out, Trump, despite all his abuses, still has a mid to upper 40 percent approval rating, so a good portion of the country has not rejected his policies. There has clearly not been a shift to the far left policies that would make a "Progressive" a viable national candidate.Dems need to not overthink this and go with some combination of Beshear/Shapiro/Wes Moore and just let the chips fall where they may. Still a massive uphill battle but zero other options.
LOL far left like I'm saying to run a communist who will seize the factories from capitalists. Pretty pathetic you're such a cuck that you think having human rights and a minimal welfare state like the democracies of Europe, Asia, and Australia / New Zealand have is some far left ideal. Yeah keep playing dead like Schumer and sucking up to the right like Jeffries, that's the ticket. The electorate that keeps rejecting neoliberal Democrats will surely vote for them next time if they keep the status quo. Go look at how popular the Democratic party is right now as they keep trying to squash any leftward movement in the party.That is really a depressing thought. Not sure any of those can win in 28. There is still a lot of time left though, so maybe someone will emerge from the background. Maybe someone like Clinton, but able to keep it in his pants. I fear the right wing media and social media have so convinced the voters that the Dems caused all the problems (real, overblown, or totally imaginary) in our country that anyone prominent in the Dem party during the Biden years has been permanently tainted. I agree though, a centrist is needed, not some far left Progressive that a few posters on this forum dream about. As you correctly pointed out, Trump, despite all his abuses, still has a mid to upper 40 percent approval rating, so a good portion of the country has not rejected his policies. There has clearly not been a shift to the far left policies that would make a "Progressive" a viable national candidate.
The Dem party needs a serious reckoning - the corruption and ineptitude and how they helped Trump win is obscene. It seems too many people are just focused on cataloguing the constant evil and depravity of the Trump party - instead of holding the opposition party accountable so maybe, just maybe, they will be capable of actually opposing Trump sooner than later - because they are too corrupt and incapable as is. Do the Democrats look good and sane next to the Trump party? Yes of course. But that's a fucking low bar. The Dem establishment and leadership is corrupt to the core.Anyone surprised??
One is too jew and one is too black. Beshear and/ or pritzker are best options so farDems need to not overthink this and go with some combination of Beshear/Shapiro/Wes Moore and just let the chips fall where they may. Still a massive uphill battle but zero other options.
While the corrupt Dem establishment is all good with that sexual harasser and other ways tainted guy Cuomo running for mayor AS a Democrat - and not really saying anything against him, finally one of the minority of Dems on the federal level with actual decency and class says something. At this point it's the actual progressive left vs the corrupt corporate establishment Dem party that helped Trump win.
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