FDA scientists have recommended that the federal government remove marijuana from its most restrictive category of drugs.

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Exterous

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I’ve read that Michigan is well aware of their status as one of the cheapest legal states—and they seem to have done things right compared with some states that legalized earlier and now they have a thriving cottage industry vs. corporate consolidation.

I read somewhere that smaller towns are getting into weed tourism—you can even find campgrounds and cabins up north that are weed friendly and situated near dispensaries.
We went to Glenlore trails (Michigan) on their 'Adults only' halloween lights night (walk a trail strewn with light displays) and they had a pop-up dispensary part way through the walk next to a food and drink trailer

There are also usually some large concentrations of dispensaries right across the border from Indiana and Ohio - way more than those smaller communities could support on their own so they're clearly getting traffic from other states.
 
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iRONic

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I've noticed the same thing around the southern Ohio - northern Kentucky border. Very convenient for location, product availablity, and online ordering. Also there are discounts up to 30% across every vendor because Kentucky allegedly begins medical cannabis availability on January 1.

I'm not confident that they'll have all their protocols and procedures in place at that time.
 

fskimospy

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The most important thing states can do when legalizing weed is to resist the urge to tax the shit out of it while simultaneously ensuring that regulations are very strictly enforced. One of the big benefits of legal weed can be depriving organized crime of resources. That only works if legal weed is cost competitive with illegal weed. Alcohol is a great example. It used to be the bread and butter of organized crime, now illegal booze is vanishingly rare in the US. We could do the same thing with weed! One really big problem with a lot of weed laws is they try to do too much.

New York is a great example of how to screw this up. They legalized weed but made several huge mistakes. First, they made it very difficult to get a license and prioritized individuals who had previous marijuana convictions. Sounds great in theory but the issue is people with prior drug convictions often don't have the resources to start new businesses! Then they decided to simply not enforce the law so illegal weed shops popped up everywhere, drowning the legal ones who were actually trying to comply.

Moral of the story is if you want to legalize weed just concentrate on doing that right as so much of the societal benefits rely on the regulations working correctly. If you want to help victims of the drug war too that's great, but it should be a separate measure.
 

fskimospy

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Remember when conservatives blamed hurricanes on gay people? I guess that means the logical conclusion is pot causes hurricanes.
It seems to vary. When hurricanes hit liberal areas it's because god wishes to smite us for our evil ways. When hurricanes hit conservative areas god acts through the good hearts of christian folks there to bring aid and comforted to those afflicted by a natural disaster and/or satan.

So really to understand the cause of a hurricane the most important thing is to know the political and/or religious ideology of those hit by it.
 
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K1052

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New York is a great example of how to screw this up. They legalized weed but made several huge mistakes. First, they made it very difficult to get a license and prioritized individuals who had previous marijuana convictions. Sounds great in theory but the issue is people with prior drug convictions often don't have the resources to start new businesses! Then they decided to simply not enforce the law so illegal weed shops popped up everywhere, drowning the legal ones who were actually trying to comply.

The ability of NY to overcomplicate, overegulate, and generally make anything legal into a huge financial/time burden to actually do properly while enabling bad actors at the same time is pretty amazing. Really in awe of it sometimes.
 

ch33zw1z

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Guess not:

 

Perknose

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Guess not:

JFC, why do they even care? These are petty, ugly, ignorant people elected to public office by the same sort of insular, reliably reactionary know-nothings.
 

IronWing

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JFC, why do they even care? These are petty, ugly, ignorant people elected to public office by the same sort of insular, reliably reactionary know-nothings.
The Republicans are beholden to the private prison industry and law enforcement. The drug war is big money and the Republicans aren’t going to stop it just because it is stupid policy.
 

ch33zw1z

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I loathe weed culture, but even I voted to legalize it. It's not like people use it and go on murdering sprees - unless it's murdering F- tier snack food.

Good on you for supporting freedoms. I cant help myself tho, what is weed culture and wgat do you loathe about it?
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Good on you for supporting freedoms. I cant help myself tho, what is weed culture and wgat do you loathe about it?

-Not who you responded to, but I fucking hate how it smells and how you can't fucking go to any sort of large gathering without the whole place reeking of weed.

Was at the opera and it smelled like weed...

Never gonna make me go pro drug war or anything but for fucks sake people edibles if you're in a social setting.
 

brycejones

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-Not who you responded to, but I fucking hate how it smells and how you can't fucking go to any sort of large gathering without the whole place reeking of weed.

Was at the opera and it smelled like weed...

Never gonna make me go pro drug war or anything but for fucks sake people edibles if you're in a social setting.
My kids call it the smell of Detroit.
 

ch33zw1z

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-Not who you responded to, but I fucking hate how it smells and how you can't fucking go to any sort of large gathering without the whole place reeking of weed.

Was at the opera and it smelled like weed...

Never gonna make me go pro drug war or anything but for fucks sake people edibles if you're in a social setting.

Thats fair, tabacco makes me feel the same way.

MJ smell doesnt bother me, but I think people should be respectful of others in this way
 

Jaskalas

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-Not who you responded to, but I fucking hate how it smells and how you can't fucking go to any sort of large gathering without the whole place reeking of weed.

Was at the opera and it smelled like weed...

Never gonna make me go pro drug war or anything but for fucks sake people edibles if you're in a social setting.
We could treat it like smoking in public, and public intoxication.
 

nakedfrog

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-Not who you responded to, but I fucking hate how it smells and how you can't fucking go to any sort of large gathering without the whole place reeking of weed.

Was at the opera and it smelled like weed...

Never gonna make me go pro drug war or anything but for fucks sake people edibles if you're in a social setting.
I like vapes for public situations (and to be clear, not to be used inside a venue, because WTF?), the smell doesn't cling to you the way it does when people smoke joints. Edibles aren't a perfect replacement.
 
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